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Unread 01-14-2009, 05:34 PM   #1
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hi there again,
recently i replaced my front door speakers and tweeters in my clio for these http://www.online-caraudio.co.uk/shopscr457.html, but now i feel like i need some deep bass for the back door speakers without installing a sub. there 13cm/5.25" speakers, dont really wont to have to spend more than 50.
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What you need to look for is some mids or small subs. Something like a Kicker CVR 6.5" or CDT 6.5" sub or just a hefty pair of mid woofers. If you can't fit 6.5" stock, then a bracket can easily be made or even bought off of the internet....because there aren't very many 5.25" speakers that can dish out much bass.....
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If you're really adamant about not using a sub, you could install 6x9s instead - you'd have better bass from those. I don't know about your car - sometimes its as simple as drilling new holes, other times you might have to build a box for them and install them in the car interior (underneath the back windshield, etc).
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As funkycasey stated, the way to go is with some beasty mids or mini subs... Elemental designs just put last years 8" subs on sale for under $40 a peice! With a little modification of the rear doos, im sure you could get something to fit with soem decent bass. But a 5 1/4" speaker just wont give you much. Also some dynamat or sound deadening of some sort will help inmprove the bass a bit if you line all the doors inside and out....
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I'd go for 6.5" rather than 6x9....less distortion at high volume. Of course, if you can fit some 8's that would be the way to go there....
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I don't mean to hijack this thread, but why do 6x9s distort more at high volume? I've never heard that before.
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I don't really know the answer to why...I would think it would have to do with how the suspension is less linear due to the cone being longer one way than the other....but i have seen test results of some of the popular 6 x 9 speakers vs. their 6.5" brothers. But i mean the distortion is usually fairly low and you probably wouldn't notice it unless you installed both sets yourself
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I don't really know the answer to why...I would think it would have to do with how the suspension is less linear due to the cone being longer one way than the other....but i have seen test results of some of the popular 6 x 9 speakers vs. their 6.5" brothers. But i mean the distortion is usually fairly low and you probably wouldn't notice it unless you installed both sets yourself
The oval shape of the cone causes a dissimilar compression of the air. And compressions of air is all sound is... So sinceits shaped un evenlyit causes the sound to travel outward in a very weird way.. This is also why higher end companies use a smooth cone, unlike cheap companies that have funky, but cool looking shapes and designs on the cones.

Aslo a round cone is much more rigid than the oval counterpart, thus allowing for more response and higher excursion.
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Hmm, that's interesting - it makes sense now that I think about it. Thanks for the info!
(How much of a difference is one likely to notice? I mean, is it worth eventually swapping my 6x9s for 6.5's?)
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