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Unread 02-24-2010, 05:47 AM   #1
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Now that I have access to my trunk again (yay) I think it's time for me to buy a subwoofer. I used to have a 200w bazooka tube, but since I listen to hard rock and alternative almost exclusively, it didn't work out so great. (It tended to get very muddy regardless of the settings.) I already have a 200W MTX amp, and the wiring is still installed from the previous amp, I just need a sub. I don't need a windshield-shattering dashboard-rattling monster, I just want to feel a bit more punch from the stereo. Given my music tastes, it has to be very "responsive," etc. I'm not sure exactly what terminology to use here...but do you guys get the gist of what I'm looking for? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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If youre looking for compact, I'd go with
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_136S110...v2.html?tp=112
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http://www.crutchfield.com/p_206TCVT...02.html?tp=112
and if you don't mind using a bit more room.
http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_2...54.html?tp=112

I have the previous generation solobaric, paired with a kenwood Excelon 400w amp and a 1.1 farad capacitor and it is a nice setup. I listen to it at low volume most of the time and the sq is great, but if I crank it up I can produce more sound than some guys I've met with dual 12's.
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That first one looks pretty good. Will it be ok with my 200W amp, do you think? And I know this is a stupid question, but what exactly is the point of a capacitor in an audio system? I've always just run my amp straight to my sub.
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That first one looks pretty good. Will it be ok with my 200W amp, do you think? And I know this is a stupid question, but what exactly is the point of a capacitor in an audio system? I've always just run my amp straight to my sub.
Speakers are a very dynamic load and amplifier's power draw can vary greatly depending on what is being played at any given moment. The capacitor works sort of like a little extra power source that helps prevent the amplifier's sudden current draws from harming your cars electrical system. It is charged through normal usage over time, and can release its power almost instantaneously when needed. (In simple terms).

In terms of the subs recommended, I highly suggest the JL. My view on many of the car audio products is that there is a very good reason why no home audio gear and no pro audio gear uses square woofers or woofers with funny pattern on them - because they don't provide better sound. You'd better believe you're paying for those "cool" looks, though.
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Yeah, the JL is looking pretty good to me too. And ok, that makes perfect sense about the capacitor. Is there any particular capacitor that you guys recommend?
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Speakers are a very dynamic load and amplifier's power draw can vary greatly depending on what is being played at any given moment. The capacitor works sort of like a little extra power source that helps prevent the amplifier's sudden current draws from harming your cars electrical system. It is charged through normal usage over time, and can release its power almost instantaneously when needed. (In simple terms).

In terms of the subs recommended, I highly suggest the JL. My view on many of the car audio products is that there is a very good reason why no home audio gear and no pro audio gear uses square woofers or woofers with funny pattern on them - because they don't provide better sound. You'd better believe you're paying for those "cool" looks, though.
I've been very happy with the solobaric both sq and db wise. And MTX just picked up the platform too. So who knows, maybe you'll start seeing more of them. I can't argue though that the JL is probably best for his situation though. The Kicker isn't quite as sensitive, and will not do as well with a low power amp and the vt is meant for really small spaces like truck cabins.

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Yeah, the JL is looking pretty good to me too. And ok, that makes perfect sense about the capacitor. Is there any particular capacitor that you guys recommend?
I use one of tsunami's older units, and its done a remarkable job. Though probably not necessary for your build due to its small power draw, it will reduce the wear and tear on your cars electrical system as well as on your amp.
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