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Unread 08-12-2010, 10:58 PM   #1
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I'm not gonna lie, I like my music to be pretty loud. BUT , I'm not a huge fan of the bass over powering everything else type of system. I listen to a lot of electronica/techno so I need a decent balance of treble mids and bass.

My truck can fit 6 1/2 inch speakers in the doors and 6x8" speakers near the back of the cab. It is a single cab so I don't have room for 2 15" subs :P The 2 rear speakers are mounted to the plastic. (Not the metal frame of the cab) and the door speakers have no insulation. How do I go about insulating these speakers so they don't make rattling noises?

I would also like a sub or maybe 2. It's a small cab so I don't think I'll need anything more than 2x 8" subs or one 10" sub.

I'm not looking to spend a whole lot, maybe $300 max. (I already have a headunit. I just need New speakers, amp(s) and maybe a sub and a box.)
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I would recommend you look into some decent 6.5's for your doors and some sound deadening material to start off with. Get a good 2 or 4 channel amp to power your front speakers (4 channel would be used later for rears too). Add the subs in later.

For subs, I'd recommend the new line of Sundown 8's. I think they were about $130 each. Or you could try out a Dayton Audio 10", that should fit under your seat nicely.

$300 won't really cut it to do it all at once though. I'd say grab some good door speakers and an amp for them first though. That'll give you the best boost.

I personally like the Alpine Type R's mixed with an Audiopipe amp of your choice. You'll need a 4 gauge minimum wiring kit too.
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Yeah, crutchfield has a special going on where you can get some dynomat for the doors for $5 if you buy a pair of speakers.

They also have include accessory kits which save you a good amount of money so you don't have to splice your factory wiring.
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Yeah, crutchfield has a special going on where you can get some dynomat for the doors for $5 if you buy a pair of speakers.

They also have include accessory kits which save you a good amount of money so you don't have to splice your factory wiring.
Wow, $5 for dynamat is cheap for a door kit! Their speakers are usually HEAVILY overpriced though. I'll have to check it out later. See what I can come up with over there. I've been ignoring crutchfield for years because of their prices, and lack of decent equipment.
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Right now, I'm mainly focused on getting an amp, 4 new speakers and the wiring in between. I know some of this stuff is cheap but I'm no audiophile and I'm not looking to make the cab fall off the frame.

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...mat_10115.aspx
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...S-HX6947X.aspx
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...Power_760.aspx
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...erPlus652.aspx
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAu...le_PLAM40.aspx

Also would I need use 2 Y splitter cables so I can have the 2 channel RCA style outputs from the head unit to play through all 4 channels?
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Right now, I'm mainly focused on getting an amp, 4 new speakers and the wiring in between. I know some of this stuff is cheap but I'm no audiophile and I'm not looking to make the cab fall off the frame.

Dynamat 10115 Sound Damping - Audio/Video Accessories at Onlinecarstereo.com
JVC CS-HX6947X Full Range Car Speakers - Car Speakers at Onlinecarstereo.com
Jensen Power 760 4 Channel Amplifiers - Car Amplifiers at Onlinecarstereo.com
Jensen PowerPlus652 Full Range Car Speakers - Car Speakers at Onlinecarstereo.com
Pyle PLAM40 Amp Installation Kits - Audio/Video Accessories at Onlinecarstereo.com

Also would I need use 2 Y splitter cables so I can have the 2 channel RCA style outputs from the head unit to play through all 4 channels?
Total budget? You ONLY want the things listed above? And no, Y splitters won't do you any good if your head unit only has a single set of pre-outs. If they're a single set, its going to be rear speakers only (can be wired to fronts, but on your fader it'll be rear). You'll need to get a HLC to convert your front speaker outputs to RCA.

Also, I need to know the exact size of the speakers you need. If its already been said, then just say that . Too early in the morning for me to pay too close of attention yet .
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6x9 for the back and 6.5" for the front. I might just get a higher power 2 channel amp and some higher power rear speakers.
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6x9 for the back and 6.5" for the front. I might just get a higher power 2 channel amp and some higher power rear speakers.
What about total budget for all 4 speakers, amp, wiring, and door deadening kits? What about if you JUST replaced the front speakers, left your current rears in place for now (and amped the fronts)?
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My fronts are door speakers and the rear speakers are larger and mounted near the seat. Plus 6x9 speakers are usually more powerful than 6.5" speakers. Also thee is no insulation in my doors and no where to put it since the window takes up most of the space.

Also how good are Sony amps? This one has some decent reviews:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...M-GTX1302.html

Also where can I find actual 4 Gauge wire (Not 8 gauge in a 4 gauge sleeve) for cheap? The kits are usually crap, plus all I really need is a distributor / fuse block and the battery / ground cable.

I would like to spend less than $500 all together. I don't really need subs since I do like using the behind seat space for my laptop, work tool set, machete and emergency related things.
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My fronts are door speakers and the rear speakers are larger and mounted near the seat. Plus 6x9 speakers are usually more powerful than 6.5" speakers. Also thee is no insulation in my doors and no where to put it since the window takes up most of the space.

Also how good are Sony amps? This one has some decent reviews:
Sony XM-GTX1302 (xmgtx1302) - 2-Channel Car Amplifier Power Amp - Sonic Electronix

Also where can I find actual 4 Gauge wire (Not 8 gauge in a 4 gauge sleeve) for cheap? The kits are usually crap, plus all I really need is a distributor / fuse block and the battery / ground cable.

I would like to spend less than $500 all together. I don't really need subs since I do like using the behind seat space for my laptop, work tool set, machete and emergency related things.
Oh yee of little faith . Let me get you a parts list going.

I'd avoid that Sony amp personally. Sony has yet to release anything audio that has pleased me honestly. That amp is no different, it will not put out the rated power, even at 14.4v.

Dampening:
Speaker choices:
2 Channel Amplifier Choices (Usually best to amp your front speakers first):
4 Channel Amplifier Choices (will need new head unit, or a HLC to use fader):
Wiring Kit:
Now, onto what I would personally recommend:
  • Rockford T1 Component 6.5" Speakers
  • Rockford T1 Coaxial 6.5" Speakers (if Components don't fit, NOT counted)
  • Rockford T1 6x9"
  • The Door Kit
  • Audiopipe AP3002 2 Channel (for your fronts only, worry about the rear later)
  • Audiopipe AP2004 4 Channel IF YOU MUST (not counted in price)
  • Street Wires 4 Gauge Kit
  • Grand Total = $477 plus shipping, which should be under budget .

The Rockford T1's are going to handle the best power, and stay the cleanest while doing it. The Type R's will follow behind slightly (not far though). The MB Quart speakers will probably have the best sound quality, but at the expense of power handling and bass output. I doubt they handle what they're rated for. The Audiopipe amps won't be beaten in that price. I'm not too fond of the HFi series from HiFonics, but they're not bad, and they WILL put out their rated power at as low as 12v. There are definitely cheaper alternatives. But I would honestly recommend you start off with a GREAT front sound stage first, as that's where all your music should be coming from anyway. You can ALWAYS add a sub in later anyway. And the T1's and Type R's will EASILY put out plenty of bass in a truck anyway. Don't be afraid of their small 6.5" size. Those T1's and Type R's pack PLENTY of bass in them for being full range speakers.

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