[J] 2014 Toyota Corolla - CarForum.net - Car Forums, Automotive News and Community

**Mike** · 06-07-2013, 11:38 AM

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The Corolla is the usually best-selling car nameplate on the planet, and Toyota is trying to keep it that way by giving the 11th generation a more expressive body, better materials on the inside, and improved fuel economy. Will they succeed?

You get a choice of two four cylinders, neither make more than 140 horsepower out of 1.8 liters. They both make 126 torques.

Well that's underwhelming lol. But that's not the worst part by a wide margin. You get a choice between a manual (moms and old people don't want), a CVT (awful) and...drumroll....a FOUR speed automatic. IN 2014.
http://jalopnik.com/2014-toyota-coro...s-it-511859056

cluffenstein · 06-07-2013, 04:05 PM

it's better than a 7 or 8 speed automatic.

At least they offer a stick shift. Props for that.

Edit: I was going to see if the Focus still offered a manual... but Ford hates linux

**Mike** · 06-07-2013, 04:15 PM

Stick is still a staple in the subcompact class. Yes, Ford has a manual in the Focus, and Fiesta. GM has a manual in the Sonic, Cruze, Cadillac ATS, CTS, etc. Dodge has a manual Dart, the Avenger probably will when its refreshed in 2014. The Civic still has a manual, as does the Accord even.

I'd respect a 7 or 8 speed auto a ton more, not sure how it is worse. Sure, perhaps it's over complicated, expensive, over engineered, but a 4 speed automatic? This crap is straight outta 1985...it's just lazy.

S D · 06-07-2013, 04:22 PM

Doesn't bother me at all, the only Toyota I'd consider is an FR-S and that's one car that they made right.

*Kenny McCormick* · 06-07-2013, 07:12 PM

Time to pick nits with it. Hmm..

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but all 2014 Corollas have LED lowbeam headlamps with LED daytime running lights,

I do like this. I wish we'd stop using thoes god-awful HIDs and start using LEDs. These things last for-bloody-ever, use next to no power(You'll lose more wattage to the wiring than the lights themselves a lot of times), and they're infinitely more durable as well.

LED headlights as industry standard pl0x.

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an in-glass AM/FM antenna,

Oh yay, let's require a $350 windshield replacement whenever the radio antenna breaks. BRILLIANT!...I thought we moved away from this crap years ago. It was big in the early 90s, and then suddenly it wasn't a thing anymore.

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color-keyed outside door handles and outside mirrors,

Hmm...maybe with an option to have the door handles contrasting to make 'em easier to find at night? Not too much to argue with here.

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a 60/40 split fold-down rear seat

Translation: We took the back seat from our grandfather's Ford Cortina and stuffed it in here with new upholstry.

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power door locks

nice

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with automatic locking feature

This should be illegal. So annoying.

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power windows with driver-side one-touch up/down, air conditioning

Nice, nice.

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with pollen filter

Yay, let's put the world's most useless filter on the car. Bet it's hidden in an incredibly hard to reach nook that involves dismantling the entire dashboard to access and isn't even listed in the maintenance intervals, either.

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standard Bluetooth connectivity

Nice for those that'd use it. I just ignore my phone though.

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With the S model, you also get flappy paddles for some reason.

umm........

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which is also available in the Corolla S in case you also find flappy paddles ridiculous in a Corolla like I do.

Thank you, semi-anonymous Jalopnik editor.

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You get 17-inch wheels and ventilated disc brakes in all corners with the S,

Better than I expected, actually.

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and 15 inchers with rear drums on the base model,

Not ba-...waaaaaaaaiiit a minute. Wait wiat wait. Hold the phone, stop the presses and all that jazz.

DRUM. BRAKES?! asdfgfdg come on Toyota that crap got old years ago. Four corner discs is industry standard even in bargain-bin crapmobile class. Get with it. S trim axle should be standard for all corollas.

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Vehicle Stability Control (VSC), Traction Control (TRAC), Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), and Brake Assist" comes as standard, just like the Smart Stop Technology brake-override system and the electronic tire pressure monitoring system.

Yaaaay, loads of aids to make inept drivers more inept. Bet there isn't an off switch for any of it, either.

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Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD)

I do like the electronic brake bias adjustment, that would come in especially handy on pickup trucks where the weight bias could shift wildly depending on trailer/cargo status. If you're towing near-max it'd make sense to automatically shift the brake bias rearward, since there's more grip back there than there is empty. Not sure what good itt'l do on a little family sedan like this, but it is a nice little gadget that I wouldn't mind retrofitting.

...erm...yeah. I think, if I were buying a car in this segment, I'd look pretty strongly at what Ford and GM are offering before I even thought about coming to Toyota.

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Originally Posted by Mike

I'd respect a 7 or 8 speed auto a ton more, not sure how it is worse.

Too many gears. No sedan has any business with more than six, and most will never have a use for more than five. 7 and 8 speed boxes are notorious for hunting around because the computers can't make their mind up which gear to be in...bad enough with just four to choose from but with eight on hand they're changing gear every thirty seconds.

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Sure, perhaps it's over complicated, expensive, over engineered, but a 4 speed automatic? This crap is straight outta 1985...it's just lazy.

If it works it works. The Camry and the Corolla have always been bargain-tier generic 12' slabs of car, so there's no incentive to push the envelope with them. The people that buy them buy them because they're cheap and dependable, they don't want or care about anything beyond that. For people like that a 4 speed automatic transaxle is just fine.

For the record I do agree that a 4 speed autotragic in 2013 should only be found on a golf cart, but at the same time, look at the type of car we're talking about. The typical Corolla customer doesn't care. They just want 12 feet of Toyota sedan. That also explains the laughably weak kneed four pot engines, the likely lack of accoutrements, and from what I can tell the stamped, flat-black steelies with gaudy plastic covers.

**Mike** · 06-08-2013, 12:19 AM

Oh I know that if you get more than six gears the gearbox is perpetually confused, that's no secret.

I'm finding it hard to fathom why it took them this many years for a refresh that...didn't really do much. Can anyone find a major imrovement in this car?

Its entire powertrain pushes no boundaries, is quite conservative and outdated in a market massively crowded and competitive.

I'm sure the suspension is nothing special, being a Corolla.

I hate to sound like Clarkson, but how hard can it be? Seems like Toyota was sitting around, then suddenly realized they needed to update the Corolla! So they slapped some bodywork together, made the interior better and called it good.

In other news, I'm truly wondering how long it takes you to do all those quotes, Kenny. I tried it once. Grew too impatient lol.

*Kenny McCormick* · 06-08-2013, 02:29 AM

I guess it's just because they know their buyers don't care about anything else? Maybe they're just complacent? Who knows. I do know it's the last car I'd look at if I were buying in that segment, though.

As for the quotes...they're not too bad to make, actually. Takes longer to get my clipboard to behave itself sometimes.

afb_ali · 08-07-2013, 09:55 PM

is it right that corolla doesn't need mechanic?

**Mike** · 08-08-2013, 12:38 AM

Any vehcile will break at some point. Toyota is no different.

06-07-2013, 04:15 PM	#3
Mike Community Director Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 7,603 Rep: 153	Stick is still a staple in the subcompact class. Yes, Ford has a manual in the Focus, and Fiesta. GM has a manual in the Sonic, Cruze, Cadillac ATS, CTS, etc. Dodge has a manual Dart, the Avenger probably will when its refreshed in 2014. The Civic still has a manual, as does the Accord even. I'd respect a 7 or 8 speed auto a ton more, not sure how it is worse. Sure, perhaps it's over complicated, expensive, over engineered, but a 4 speed automatic? This crap is straight outta 1985...it's just lazy. __________________ "He shouted: 'You've won! Didn't you know?' I didn't, and it's about the nicest thing I've ever been told" -Bruce McLaren, 1968 Belgian Grand Prix Read the rules! \| DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM 2009 Pontiac G8 GT - 6.0L, 6AT - 95k miles \| 1994 Chevy Blazer K5 - 350, 5MT - 140k miles \| 2006 Mazda 3 S sedan - 2.3L, 5MT - 130k miles Wife's Car: 2013 Chevy Volt - 70k miles Bikes: 1979 Yamaha XS 750 \| 1985 Honda Sabre 700 Last edited by Mike; 06-07-2013 at 04:21 PM.

06-07-2013, 04:22 PM	#4
S D Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: WI Posts: 1,991 Rep: 64	Doesn't bother me at all, the only Toyota I'd consider is an FR-S and that's one car that they made right. __________________ Simplify, then add lightness

06-08-2013, 12:19 AM	#6
Mike Community Director Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 7,603 Rep: 153	Oh I know that if you get more than six gears the gearbox is perpetually confused, that's no secret. I'm finding it hard to fathom why it took them this many years for a refresh that...didn't really do much. Can anyone find a major imrovement in this car? Its entire powertrain pushes no boundaries, is quite conservative and outdated in a market massively crowded and competitive. I'm sure the suspension is nothing special, being a Corolla. I hate to sound like Clarkson, but how hard can it be? Seems like Toyota was sitting around, then suddenly realized they needed to update the Corolla! So they slapped some bodywork together, made the interior better and called it good. In other news, I'm truly wondering how long it takes you to do all those quotes, Kenny. I tried it once. Grew too impatient lol. __________________ "He shouted: 'You've won! Didn't you know?' I didn't, and it's about the nicest thing I've ever been told" -Bruce McLaren, 1968 Belgian Grand Prix Read the rules! \| DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM 2009 Pontiac G8 GT - 6.0L, 6AT - 95k miles \| 1994 Chevy Blazer K5 - 350, 5MT - 140k miles \| 2006 Mazda 3 S sedan - 2.3L, 5MT - 130k miles Wife's Car: 2013 Chevy Volt - 70k miles Bikes: 1979 Yamaha XS 750 \| 1985 Honda Sabre 700

06-08-2013, 02:29 AM	#7
Kenny McCormick Spah sappin' mah susp! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Earth...I think Posts: 3,271 Rep: 96	I guess it's just because they know their buyers don't care about anything else? Maybe they're just complacent? Who knows. I do know it's the last car I'd look at if I were buying in that segment, though. As for the quotes...they're not too bad to make, actually. Takes longer to get my clipboard to behave itself sometimes. __________________ Tired Iron ain't got no time to wear out... My rigs: 1985 Ford F150 \| 4x2 \| 300ci OHV inline six \| 4-speed OD manual \| 310K \| No power brakes \| Running 100% - It hasn't driven this good in 15 years! 1984 Ford F150 \| 4x2 \| 300ci six \| granny four \| 3.55 rear end \| 210K \| Brakes shot. Rear drums are doing most of the work. Not fit to drive due to that. 1997 Ford Explorer XLT \| 4.0L Vulcan V6 \| 5-speed automatic \| shift-on-the-fly 4WD \| 210,000 miles \| Running 95% - Needs brakes on all four corners + bald tires 1989 Ford F150 \| 300cid six...again \| 5-speed \| 4x4 \| 160K \| Needs brakes done as well. Oi!

08-08-2013, 12:38 AM	#9
Mike Community Director Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 7,603 Rep: 153	Any vehcile will break at some point. Toyota is no different. __________________ "He shouted: 'You've won! Didn't you know?' I didn't, and it's about the nicest thing I've ever been told" -Bruce McLaren, 1968 Belgian Grand Prix Read the rules! \| DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM 2009 Pontiac G8 GT - 6.0L, 6AT - 95k miles \| 1994 Chevy Blazer K5 - 350, 5MT - 140k miles \| 2006 Mazda 3 S sedan - 2.3L, 5MT - 130k miles Wife's Car: 2013 Chevy Volt - 70k miles Bikes: 1979 Yamaha XS 750 \| 1985 Honda Sabre 700

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[J] 2014 Toyota Corolla

08-07-2013, 09:55 PM	#8
afb_ali Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 9 Rep: 10	is it right that corolla doesn't need mechanic?