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Unread 05-25-2012, 11:07 AM   #21
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If you sink into it that much it doesn't have support for high speed cornering.
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The sides are a good 8-10 inches forward. I've never seen a car that had seating like this unless it was a specific option. You can order the new 5.0's with Recaro seats.

I guarantee that your seats don't provide near the lateral support these do.

It provides a totally different feel to a car when you strap into a bucket seat. You start to feel what the car is doing much more precisely. When you break loose you know it the instant it happens, you can feel minor slips as you go around a corner at the tires limit and adjust throttle control accordingly. You just don't get that same feeling in a seat that doesn't cradle you. The bucket seat will allow you to relax your core muscles and focus on your arms and feet.
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The sides are a good 8-10 inches forward. I've never seen a car that had seating like this unless it was a specific option. You can order the new 5.0's with Recaro seats.

I guarantee that your seats don't provide near the lateral support these do.

It provides a totally different feel to a car when you strap into a bucket seat. You start to feel what the car is doing much more precisely. When you break loose you know it the instant it happens, you can feel minor slips as you go around a corner at the tires limit and adjust throttle control accordingly. You just don't get that same feeling in a seat that doesn't cradle you. The bucket seat will allow you to relax your core muscles and focus on your arms and feet.
Maybe it's the way I was trained to drive. I was taught by my father, who teaches EVOC. Though I'm no expert, I remember some of the basic stuff he taught me. I lose traction before I lose my seat. Even zig-zagging. I dunno what force it's called, but I move myself anticipating corners. It's a good feeling.
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You lose traction because you don't have much grip.
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Recaro and Corbeau are great looking seats and would fit perfectly into the car's floor pan. Although, at this point to maintain with the design theme I am leaning more towards the stock seat to retain the power options. If and when I get to building the full race version of R2...it'll be bare bone ... no frills ... performance vehicle.

Continuing on with work on the vehicle's substructure continues...



Once the rear cab wall was fabricated and located the rear cab mounts were created. Since these will be supporting a little more than 50% of the cab's weight, they have to be tied into the sub structure really well.



... fabricated and installed. Ran with same gauge as the cab mounts since this area will also be supporting the cab and door hinges.



Horizontal DOM impact/support beam mocked up.

After temporarily pinning these panels in place work on the doors began...



Inner door shells tacked together. Exterior skins will be created later and then hemmed over the perimeter flanges.



Inner door shell gapped and mocked up. They need to be tweaked a bit yet for the seals to fit correctly. Access and mount holes will be created once impact beams, latch and hinge mounts have been fabricated.

Thanks for checking out the build!
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Recaro and Corbeau are great looking seats and would fit perfectly into the car's floor pan. Although, at this point to maintain with the design theme I am leaning more towards the stock seat to retain the power options. If and when I get to building the full race version of R2...it'll be bare bone ... no frills ... performance vehicle.

Continuing on with work on the vehicle's substructure continues...



Once the rear cab wall was fabricated and located the rear cab mounts were created. Since these will be supporting a little more than 50% of the cab's weight, they have to be tied into the sub structure really well.



D/S front kick panel being measured up....



... fabricated and installed. Ran with same gauge as the cab mounts since this area will also be supporting the cab and door hinges.



Horizontal DOM impact/support beam mocked up.

After temporarily pinning these panels in place work on the doors began...



Inner door shells tacked together. Exterior skins will be created later and then hemmed over the perimeter flanges.



Inner door shell gapped and mocked up. They need to be tweaked a bit yet for the seals to fit correctly. Access and mount holes will be created once impact beams, latch and hinge mounts have been fabricated.

Thanks for checking out the build!
Pics seem to have broken. NVM they work now, very nice metal work. As always very impressed by these type of builds.


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Maybe it's the way I was trained to drive. I was taught by my father, who teaches EVOC. Though I'm no expert, I remember some of the basic stuff he taught me. I lose traction before I lose my seat. Even zig-zagging. I dunno what force it's called, but I move myself anticipating corners. It's a good feeling.
Yes, but in a bucket seat, you fit tight in the seat. Contact with the seat is increased and so is how much you can feel the car slipping because you are basically strapped to the car. You'd just have to feel the difference to understand.
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You lose traction because you don't have much grip.
possibly a part of it, but I don't think that better tires will throw me from my seat. Take a look at the seat design, it hugs the driver:


That's a 2011, but almost identical seats. Here's a 940:


Again, very similar.

In fact, a lot of cars are like this. It's very possible to stay in your seat, if you are trained to. I'd imagine I'd keep myself dead center in bucket seats anyways. The sides are hot lava, lol
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Yes, but in a bucket seat, you fit tight in the seat. Contact with the seat is increased and so is how much you can feel the car slipping because you are basically strapped to the car. You'd just have to feel the difference to understand.
Oh, I get strapped in the car. I twist the seatbelt.
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All semi-sporty seats are like that man. My sister's Bonneville has that. God knows that wasn't built to be a speed demon.
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Once the engine compartment opening was determined and the moisture trough surround created, fabrication on the hatch's substructure began. Profiles of the perimeter areas were created and dimensions were transposed onto sheet metal. Then the fun part came next...actually forming the sheet metal.


Here, after the pieces were formed, the hatch sections are being fitted together and prepped for scribing.


A section of the substructure is dropped into the opening for the initial fit.


Substructure welded together and approaching completion. Flipped over for some hammer and dollie work.


Hatch tacked to the wire frame buck for some additional pieces to be completed. Still need to do some hammer and dollie work to even out the HAZ.
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