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Unread 12-26-2008, 10:05 PM   #1
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Question Need Help/Advice on New Cars

My boyfriend has had his car for 10 years now and it has been a good'ole Neon to him, but now as it's clear the expenses for repair are more then the car is worth as of the last year, he's decided he's ready to buy a new car.


From my experience with my parents, and friends of my age, buying a used car is LOSE LOSE situation. So that is out of the question. I wonder if Certified pre-owned is basically the same as used.

So now here's the problem with New cars, even though right now is "The best time to buy a new car!" I hear. THEY ARE RIDICULOUSLY EXPENSIVE!!! WTF people are starving and this is honestly going to help to economic situation when people can't even afford to put food on their table? Who's buying cars??? How?????



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He spent $9,000 on his new car ten years ago. The cheapest new car we are finding is at $18,000. Dilemma.


We don't want to spend more then $10,000-$12,000 that way his plan for paying it off in two and a half years works.

We're just wanting something that can take him 20 miles to work and back everyday, a low cylinder like a 4 is what we're looking for so it's easier on the gas, a car that will last- nothing fancy, from a reputable good company who's current models are as reputable as the company's reputation, price range $10,000- $12,000.

Now, I don't know squat about cars, but I'm the one needing to do the research for this. He's completely out of the auto-loop as well since he hasn't had to worry about it in 10 years.


1.Any recommendations?
2.Thoughts on certified-pre-owned vehicles
3.Current auto pricing and expected auto pricing in the near future? Will it drop drastically soon?
4. Recommended honest dealers?
5. Recommended good cars, of current.
6. Recommended country to buy the new car from
7. Pros cons, lay it on us if you know it.
8.Website recommendations
9. Should we wait it out a little longer? - Car is honestly about to fall in half though
10. Personal experience stories about dealership pros cons, and manufacturer pros cons

Please help, I guarantee you know more about cars then I do. I don't recognize models, I couldn't even name off 4 brands, I don't know anything about squat in cars. Please help.

Thanks,
Alice

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Unread 12-26-2008, 11:18 PM   #2
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From my experience with my parents, and friends of my age, buying a used car is LOSE LOSE situation. So that is out of the question. I wonder if Certified pre-owned is basically the same as used.
I have been a mechanic for over 35 years and I haven't found this to be true. I've never owned a new car, once a demo, but nothing newer than that. Most of my cars have been at least 10 years old, all 40+ of them. It's a misconception that vehicle ownership means that you need to spend thousands of dollars a year and endure countless breakdowns and repairs.

There are plenty of good cars that are reliable well beyond 10 years and 100 miles. Toyota, Honda & Mazda all make great cars. Of course all manufacturers have make both good and bad models, even these guys. You need to know how to do a bit of research.

For example, go to MSN.com and click Autos, then Used Cars.
Search for Honda - Accord
Now check out 1997, then Reliability. You will see that all is green- Minimal Problems.
Now go back and view the same thing for a 1998 Honda Accord
You will see red, Significant Problems for Transmission & Driveline
This applies only to the automatic transmission. If you were buying a manual transmission car this would not be an issue. If you bought an automatic, you might be repairing the transmission every 18 months. I find this unacceptable. This also applies to other Honda products, such as Acura. Simply bad transmissions for these years.
Read the User Reviews, you shouldn't settle for anything less than a 8.8

Another site you can check out is carsurvey.org
You will find owner reviews, not written by professionals but you will be able to pick out patterns.

I bought a 10 year old 1992 Acura Legend with 145,000 kms. Paid under $10,000
Owned it for 4 years and run the odometer up to 220,000 kms, until it was written of in an accident.
Total cost of repairs (not oil changes, tune ups, tires) under $400
It only failed to start once. Ignition switch failed, $75 dealer part, took me 20 minutes to replace.

Currently own 1993 Lexus ES300 with 155,000, paid under $7,000 for it.
One year later and I've put $40 into rear sway-bar bushings because they were making a little clunking.


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1.Any recommendations?
2.Thoughts on certified-pre-owned vehicles
3.Current auto pricing and expected auto pricing in the near future? Will it drop drastically soon?
4. Recommended honest dealers?
5. Recommended good cars, of current.
6. Recommended country to buy the new car from
7. Pros cons, lay it on us if you know it.
8.Website recommendations
9. Should we wait it out a little longer? - Car is honestly about to fall in half though
10. Personal experience stories about dealership pros cons, and manufacturer pros cons
1) Honda Accord, Acura Legend, Acura TL, Toyota Camry, Lexus ES300.
Less expensive car; Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla, Nissan Sentra, Mazda Protege, Mazda 3
2) Pre-owned is OK, just buy from a reputable dealer, avoid buying extended warranties. Do a BBB search for them, did they settle all disputes? As your friends where they bought their cars from, and their experiences.
3) Prices for new cars are coming down, used cars still offer great value (new cars depreciate so fast)
4) See #2
5) See #1
6) Buy in your own country, avoid the hassle of importing. You can buy one that's already been imported, just make sure it's a model normally offered in your country (parts availability)
7) I think I covered that
8) Craigslist.org is a good place to start. BEWARE of scammers! That's a whole other topic.
In Canada - buysell.com, autotrader.ca, canadafinders.com
9) Just after Christmas is an excellent time (bills coming in)
10) Dealers normally charge more than private, but you can sometimes find a deal. Remember to check them out first.
Now my bias shows here, but the imports I mentioned, and for domestic, certain GM or Ford. Remember, they all make good and bad models, check them out on MSN. I'd go with ann import I've mentioned first. I do own a GMC Jimmy ands it's been good.

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Unread 12-26-2008, 11:20 PM   #3
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"Certified preowned" can mean a few things. It might have a dealers extended warrenty for a limited time or miliage. It also might mean its been inspected for faults and wear.

I would buy a low milage car with an extended warrenty. Ask for one at the dealership or used car seller.

I wouldnt not buy from the Big 3 right now because of their situation. If they fail its going to be hard to have a warrenty honored. Or it will take forever. Personally I love mustangs and would buy another one in a heart beat, but thats because I know the car and company. Its going to be up to you to make the decision.

Dont be afraid to drive out of state to get the car, it could be worth it. Search popular car forums (like this one) for good deals on someone selling their car. You will find CRAZY deals on AWSOME cars sometimes.

Most cars these days are good with gas milage.

Look for Honda Civics, Accords, ect. They are dime a dozen and last forever.

Hope this helps you some.

*BIAS WARNING* In no way statements made below represent carforum.net or its staff and is of my own personal opinions and views.

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Re...tang&trimid=-1

theres the mustangs, I have an 03 V6 with 49k on the clock, bought it with 43k. Not a problem with it yet outside of a leaky windshield and drivers side (fualty sealent and/or repair most likely) window motor sticking some on hot days. You can get a V6 right now for super cheap if you know where to look. Gas milage is so-so though. about 18-20 mpg in the city. Does not help I have a led foot
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Something to think about: The Big 3's situation is not just their situation anymore, Honda is now closing down 3 factories in the United States and Toyota just posted their first loss in a LONG time. While they are still financially in a little better situation than the Big 3, in 6 months they could easily be in worse shape. Time will tell.

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