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M_Metzger1114 · 02-07-2013, 07:59 PM

So I was driving the s10 to home from work today and got about a mile from home and it died on me. I pushed it into a parking lot to work on it. I pulled a spark plug out and the spark seemed too yellow. I pulled the icm and coil and took it to az to test. icm tested good but the primary resistance on the coil was reading 1.5. I bought a new one and put it on and my spark looked better but still now start. I dont know why i didnt do this first but i sprayed a little starter fluid in the intake and it fired right up. Then it died. I checked the Schrader valve and fuel shot out. I know that doesn't mean it's getting enough pressure but when I pulled the plug there was no gas on it. I was thinking it was that spider assembly that the fuel injectors are on but I don't really know much about it. Does that generally go out as a whole unit just at once, or would it run bad first?

By the way, it's a 97 s10 with a 4.3 vortec v6.

Mr Car Guy · 02-07-2013, 08:17 PM

The injectors need at least 48 PSI to spray. If the pump is weak you may get fuel out of the shrader valve but not past the injectors.

You need to get a fuel pressure gauge on it. 55-60 psi with the key on, you may need to cycle the key a couple of times.

This is a common no start cause.

**Mike** · 02-07-2013, 10:50 PM

You need to properly check fuel pressure. Typically with the spider assembly it'll just run like crap and you'll get awful mileage, but it will usually run.

M_Metzger1114 · 02-08-2013, 06:15 AM

Good to know. Ill check it when I get off work today. I would much rather it be filter or pump than that spider lol

**lautinjr** · 02-08-2013, 09:30 AM

spider isn't that bad just remove upper intake.

**Mike** · 02-08-2013, 10:35 AM

Hardest part of the spider assembly is the damn steel fuel lines. Those are damn near impossible to get off.

psp4ever · 02-09-2013, 06:27 AM

Thread title is hilarious sounds like your pouting haha

M_Metzger1114 · 02-10-2013, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by psp4ever

Thread title is hilarious sounds like your pouting haha

Haha yeah I'm not really that upset about it. It was just bad timing because my dad and step mom were coming in for the weekend and staying with us, so I knew I wouldn't have time to work on it. And with the Saturn down to right now it left me and my wife down to just the Taurus to get back and forth to work if I don't get it fixed by Monday.

I still haven't had a chance to check it out. Hopefully ill have some time tomorrow. (Technically today since its 1am lol)

M_Metzger1114 · 02-11-2013, 08:52 AM

Well I checked fuel pressure and I was at about 35 pounds. Went ahead and replaced the filter first then went to pull a part to grab a pump... I normally would never buy anything electric from a junkyard but I'm strapped for cash right now... Got the pump home and the connection is different!!!

I took it off a 98 Sonoma and thought it was the same... Guess not. Well I guess I'm just gonna bite it and go grab on from AZ. I don't feel like goin back to the junkyard.

tofunater · 02-11-2013, 01:42 PM

Gotta watch what you pull from 95-98 era s-trucks. There's a lot of parts that were phased out slowly during those years.

02-07-2013, 07:59 PM	#1
M_Metzger1114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 148 Rep: 10	97 s10 is being stupid and I hate it and I want to sell it lol So I was driving the s10 to home from work today and got about a mile from home and it died on me. I pushed it into a parking lot to work on it. I pulled a spark plug out and the spark seemed too yellow. I pulled the icm and coil and took it to az to test. icm tested good but the primary resistance on the coil was reading 1.5. I bought a new one and put it on and my spark looked better but still now start. I dont know why i didnt do this first but i sprayed a little starter fluid in the intake and it fired right up. Then it died. I checked the Schrader valve and fuel shot out. I know that doesn't mean it's getting enough pressure but when I pulled the plug there was no gas on it. I was thinking it was that spider assembly that the fuel injectors are on but I don't really know much about it. Does that generally go out as a whole unit just at once, or would it run bad first? By the way, it's a 97 s10 with a 4.3 vortec v6. __________________ 1995 Ford Taurus SE 3.0 v6 55k $200 Invested 1994 Saturn SL 1.9L Mileage? $620 Invested 1990 Ford Bronco 5.0l 302 v8 mileage-? Lol $100 Invested SOLD! 1998 Saturn SL2 1.9l DOHC 216k TRADED FOR THE BRONCO! 1997 Chevy S10 4.3l v6 223k

02-07-2013, 08:17 PM	#2
Mr Car Guy Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Surrey, BC, Canada Posts: 1,461 Rep: 160	The injectors need at least 48 PSI to spray. If the pump is weak you may get fuel out of the shrader valve but not past the injectors. You need to get a fuel pressure gauge on it. 55-60 psi with the key on, you may need to cycle the key a couple of times. This is a common no start cause. __________________ 1999 AWD Jimmy 1995 AWD Jimmy - RIP, 1989 AWD Jimmy - RIP I try to learn from other peoples mistakes that I gave advice to.

02-07-2013, 10:50 PM	#3
Mike Community Director Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 6,131 Rep: 129	You need to properly check fuel pressure. Typically with the spider assembly it'll just run like crap and you'll get awful mileage, but it will usually run. __________________ Take me down to the paradise city where the grass is green, and the girls are pretty. \| Save a tree, support your local drag strip! Read the rules! \| DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM \| See a bad post? Just report it! Daily Driver: 1996 Chevy Blazer LT 4x4 - 235k miles Girlfriend's Car: 2003 Oldsmobile Alero GLS 3.4L 4 door - 130k miles Bike: 1981 Yamaha XS 400 [Almost ready!] Plow Truck: 2000 Chevy Silverado 2500 LT - 190k miles [6.0L, 4x4, ECSB, Eaton Rear Locker] Others: 2012 Chevy Cruze automatic, Sonic sedan manual, both 1.4 Turbo, LT trim

02-08-2013, 06:15 AM	#4
M_Metzger1114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 148 Rep: 10	Good to know. Ill check it when I get off work today. I would much rather it be filter or pump than that spider lol __________________ 1995 Ford Taurus SE 3.0 v6 55k $200 Invested 1994 Saturn SL 1.9L Mileage? $620 Invested 1990 Ford Bronco 5.0l 302 v8 mileage-? Lol $100 Invested SOLD! 1998 Saturn SL2 1.9l DOHC 216k TRADED FOR THE BRONCO! 1997 Chevy S10 4.3l v6 223k

02-08-2013, 09:30 AM	#5
lautinjr Now accepting bribes. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Currently Las Vegas Posts: 4,019 Rep: 191	spider isn't that bad just remove upper intake. __________________ Please help reduce our mini van population and wear condoms!

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02-08-2013, 10:35 AM	#6
Mike Community Director Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 6,131 Rep: 129	Hardest part of the spider assembly is the damn steel fuel lines. Those are damn near impossible to get off. __________________ Take me down to the paradise city where the grass is green, and the girls are pretty. \| Save a tree, support your local drag strip! Read the rules! \| DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM \| See a bad post? Just report it! Daily Driver: 1996 Chevy Blazer LT 4x4 - 235k miles Girlfriend's Car: 2003 Oldsmobile Alero GLS 3.4L 4 door - 130k miles Bike: 1981 Yamaha XS 400 [Almost ready!] Plow Truck: 2000 Chevy Silverado 2500 LT - 190k miles [6.0L, 4x4, ECSB, Eaton Rear Locker] Others: 2012 Chevy Cruze automatic, Sonic sedan manual, both 1.4 Turbo, LT trim

02-09-2013, 06:27 AM	#7
psp4ever idk Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 504 Rep: 40	Thread title is hilarious sounds like your pouting haha __________________ 1994 GMC Sierra, 191k miles, 5.7L, Train horn edition. Back on the road 2001 Honda CRV, 110k miles, 2.0L. 2012 Honda Rancher ES, 2300 miles, 420cc. Need a Carfax? Click HERE. Watch my Vids on YOUTUBE

02-11-2013, 08:52 AM	#9
M_Metzger1114 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 148 Rep: 10	Well I checked fuel pressure and I was at about 35 pounds. Went ahead and replaced the filter first then went to pull a part to grab a pump... I normally would never buy anything electric from a junkyard but I'm strapped for cash right now... Got the pump home and the connection is different!!! I took it off a 98 Sonoma and thought it was the same... Guess not. Well I guess I'm just gonna bite it and go grab on from AZ. I don't feel like goin back to the junkyard. __________________ 1995 Ford Taurus SE 3.0 v6 55k $200 Invested 1994 Saturn SL 1.9L Mileage? $620 Invested 1990 Ford Bronco 5.0l 302 v8 mileage-? Lol $100 Invested SOLD! 1998 Saturn SL2 1.9l DOHC 216k TRADED FOR THE BRONCO! 1997 Chevy S10 4.3l v6 223k

02-11-2013, 01:42 PM	#10
tofunater Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 981 Rep: 57	Gotta watch what you pull from 95-98 era s-trucks. There's a lot of parts that were phased out slowly during those years. __________________ My rides: --1997 4.3L Chevy Blazer w/193k- SOLD! --2012 Chevy Sonic LT hatch back w/1.4 liter turbo