CarForum.net - Car Forums, Automotive News and Community
Home Gallery Register Calendar Members List

Go Back   CarForum.net - Car Forums, Automotive News and Community > General Car Discussion > General Automotive Discussion

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools
Unread 09-14-2007, 09:33 AM   #1
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1
Rep: 10 greeman456 is on a distinguished road
Default How Long Before Hybrid Cars Make A Real Impact

How long do you think it will be before hybrids make a real impact on the environment ?

greeman456 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-14-2007, 10:19 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
Dman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 235
Rep: 20 Dman is on a distinguished road
Default

Too be honest probably never, a lot of the pollution from cars is coming from countries like India and China, who have very large populations, lots of older cars, and basically no emmissions laws. Hybrids are just a fad anyways imo. You can get better mileage out of a diesel car, and you can use bio diesel in them which produces nothing harmful, unlike hybrids which do burn gasoline. Also hybrids are way more expensive to fix if they break since they have 2 engines, and the intial cost of the vehicle is higher as well. The new prius gets around 44mpg, while a 2007 golf gets 50+ mpg on a tank. Surprised VW hasn't brought the lupo out here, currently you get around 75mpg out of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Lupo
__________________
2010 Altima 2.5 SL

Last edited by Dman; 09-14-2007 at 10:24 AM.

Dman is offline Dman's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-14-2007, 07:41 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
turmionkatilot88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Shore, Md
Posts: 149
Rep: 15 turmionkatilot88 is on a distinguished road
Default

as green as you may, we are probably just slowing down the inevitable here. It would have to be a worldwide move to an alternate fuel source in order to see some improvement.
__________________
06 Mazda 3s Sedan. Titanium Grey, Magnaflow Exhaust, K&N Air Filter, JBL 6x8" speakers in all doors components in front powered by JBL CS60.4 Amp and 1-12" Kicker L5 Solobaric powered by a VR401 Crossfire Amp.

turmionkatilot88 is offline turmionkatilot88's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Unread 01-15-2008, 12:11 PM   #4
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10
Rep: 10 gerrawrd is on a distinguished road
Default

the only impact will be the way people drive their cars, changing the way it emits gasses wont really make a gigantic impact unless they were combined with a change in driving habits of everyone, i think its cheaper and easier to promote better driving for better emissions before making everyone buy a different fueled car.

gerrawrd is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2008, 10:05 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Overland Park Kansas
Posts: 71
Rep: 17 Pinhead is on a distinguished road
Default

They're already impacting the environment... Negatively.

http://clubs.ccsu.edu/recorder/edito...asp?NewsID=188

Quote:
Through a study by CNW Marketing called “Dust to Dust,” the total combined energy is taken from all the electrical, fuel, transportation, materials (metal, plastic, etc) and hundreds of other factors over the expected lifetime of a vehicle. The Prius costs an average of $3.25 per mile driven over a lifetime of 100,000 miles - the expected lifespan of the Hybrid.

The Hummer, on the other hand, costs a more fiscal $1.95 per mile to put on the road over an expected lifetime of 300,000 miles. That means the Hummer will last three times longer than a Prius and use less combined energy doing it.
In other words, the HUMMER is cheaper over the long run than the Prius, the "best" hybrid car out there!!

And as for the environment,

Quote:
Building a Toyota Prius causes more environmental damage than a Hummer that is on the road for three times longer than a Prius.
Read the article. I think it's pretty interesting.

Pinhead is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 02-27-2008, 10:51 PM   #6
Now accepting bribes.
 
lautinjr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Currently Las Vegas
Posts: 4,311
Rep: 193 lautinjr has a spectacular aura aboutlautinjr has a spectacular aura about
Default

alright it's a legitamate article but I have to doubt some things. 90% of raw materials on the hybrid are recycled the cost of repair to the 1.5L motor is extremly cheap and the electric drive is warrantied for 100K on all recent models. Plus many Prius have already well surpassed 100k. All three regular customers I have are are 100K 1 is over 180K and going. People are just scared of the unknown. When I went to get Hybrid certified by ATG I wass amazed at the design and simplicity all vehicles should be made with at least the same set up as the honda civic which personnal opinion is the best design and has had 0 problems since release.

lautinjr is offline lautinjr's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-05-2008, 12:42 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Republic of Britain
Posts: 114
Rep: 13 Flynn is on a distinguished road
Default

Hybrids are a load of nonsense anyway. Diesels are far more economical.

Flynn is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-05-2008, 07:15 PM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 74
Rep: 12 LS1Z28 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flynn View Post
Hybrids are a load of nonsense anyway. Diesels are far more economical.
But worse for the environment. Hybrids will never do much. In 20 years we will have mainstream alternative fuel sources, such as hydrogen or something. I read an article about the nano-particle lining that increased the surface area 6x, and it said it would make hydrogen much more economical and sensible.

But for now, i'll stick to my fast, gas guzzling, earth killing, 5.7L V8
__________________
'99 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 M6 - 5.7L - ~350rwhp
Mods: Longtube headers, 3" ORY and Catback, Cutout, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Stage 2 Clutch, and Pro 5.0 Shifter
Next: Cam & Heads for ~475rwhp, then Suspension

LS1Z28 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-09-2008, 02:33 PM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 74
Rep: 12 LS1Z28 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shortywizdom View Post
when we get sick and tried of high gas prices.

There is a new car system that converts your car to run
on Water or Gasoline and Triple your Mileage.It's called HHO.
I recently bought the easy step by step guide to set it up,and got the supplies
and it only cost my under 200 bucks.It's been 3 weeks i am spending about 60% less
on gas.Here is the website to check it out if you want.

I think its way better than buying a new hybrid car to save money
So you are telling me my internal combustion engine can run on water with this new system?
__________________
'99 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 M6 - 5.7L - ~350rwhp
Mods: Longtube headers, 3" ORY and Catback, Cutout, SLP Lid, K&N Filter, Stage 2 Clutch, and Pro 5.0 Shifter
Next: Cam & Heads for ~475rwhp, then Suspension

Last edited by SpookedJunglist; 04-09-2008 at 10:21 PM.

LS1Z28 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 04-09-2008, 08:17 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Overland Park Kansas
Posts: 71
Rep: 17 Pinhead is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1Z28 View Post
So you are telling me my internal combustion engine can run on water with this new system?
Kind of... The Water4gas system is a simple water electrolyzer that converts the water into hydrogen and oxygen and injects it into the intake manifold of the engine. This does work. HOWEVER, what they don't tell you is without modifying, tuning, or otherwise "tricking" the ECU, the fuel mileage gains are either stuck in the <20% range OR will be phenomenal at first, only to gradually drop back down to stock mileage or worse.

I'm working on a system that does trick the ECU to allow the MPG gains to stay for good... And will be guaranteed 50% or better increase.

Pinhead is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:24 PM.

Shogun Interactive Development Copyright 2015 Shogun Interactive Development. All rights reserved.