CarForum.net - Car Forums, Automotive News and Community
Home Gallery Register Calendar Members List

Go Back   CarForum.net - Car Forums, Automotive News and Community > General Car Discussion > General Automotive Discussion

Reply
LinkBack Thread Tools
Unread 09-20-2014, 02:38 PM   #1
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 5
Rep: 10 ike529az is on a distinguished road
Default Mounting repair problems on my 2 older cars

2003 Hyundai Sonata paid $2300- 2 1/2 years ago
1996 Buick Park Avenue - just bought one month ago for $2000-
I lived in New York City so I never needed a car. When I moved to Ohio I thought it would be cheaper to buy 2 used cars from my mechanic rather than have a new car with a big down payment and big monthly payment for 6 years. Also, if one car was in the shop, I would never be without a car. However, I'm finding the repair bills are adding up and it almost seems like it might be cheaper to just sell these 2 cars and use the $ for a down payment. I saw at least six well rated 2012-13 cars priced in the 13K range with approx. 10,000 miles on them getting 26/39 mpg. A 5 year loan would be approx. $175/mo. My 1996 Buick will probably need a lot of repairs moving forward. Maybe my mechanic is not my "friend" - he sells me cheap cars knowing he'll make $ as well as the regular $300 repair bills. Right now the Sonata has a pending $400 front axle repair needed. The Buick which I just bought already has a temp. programmer control problem which will run at least $300. I want to know if you think I should just sell these 2 cars and just buy a new one...

Last edited by ike529az; 09-20-2014 at 02:52 PM.

ike529az is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-20-2014, 07:15 PM   #2
Community Director
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 7,602
Rep: 153 Mike has a spectacular aura aboutMike has a spectacular aura about
Default

The Park Avenue i would expect to be very reliable...don't know how many miles, etc. The powertrain (3.8 GM) is known for being one thing in particular, and that's bulletproof reliable.

The Sonata I wouldn't be so convinced - Hyundai has only gotten into their stride the past several years and some would say they're still not on par with the others. I know one member on here had a similar Hyundai (I think it was a Sonata?) for only a few months before deciding it was costing more money than it was worth and selling it.

Perhaps you could list your options for cars you could buy.
__________________
"He shouted: 'You've won! Didn't you know?' I didn't, and it's about the nicest thing I've ever been told" -Bruce McLaren, 1968 Belgian Grand Prix
Read the rules! | DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM
2009 Pontiac G8 GT - 6.0L, 6AT - 95k miles | 1994 Chevy Blazer K5 - 350, 5MT - 140k miles | 2006 Mazda 3 S sedan - 2.3L, 5MT - 130k miles
Wife's Car: 2013 Chevy Volt - 70k miles
Bikes: 1979 Yamaha XS 750 | 1985 Honda Sabre 700


Mike is offline Mike's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-20-2014, 10:20 PM   #3
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 5
Rep: 10 ike529az is on a distinguished road
Default

The Park Avenue has 116,000 miles but it is a 1996 which means its almost a 20 years old car which concerns me in terms of repair bills that will start popping up due to parts just falling off due to age. The Hyundai has been problematic - has 129,000 miles - back brakes then front brakes then the AC then the brake lines now the front axles just bought 4 new tires, new compressor ($330) My point is between the 2, it might be cheaper to dump them, buy a new car and not be worrying all the time on what will repair bill I'll get hit with next. I'll get better gas mileage too. I know the new car will need maintenance but not as much and big repair bills will be down the road. The 2012-13 cars I saw were US News recommended: Ford Focus- Hyundai Elantra - Kia Rio - Ford Fiesta - Hyundai Accent - Kia Forte

ike529az is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-21-2014, 05:02 PM   #4
Community Director
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 7,602
Rep: 153 Mike has a spectacular aura aboutMike has a spectacular aura about
Default

116,000 on that buick would not concern me in the slightest.

what's your location? can you drive a manual?
__________________
"He shouted: 'You've won! Didn't you know?' I didn't, and it's about the nicest thing I've ever been told" -Bruce McLaren, 1968 Belgian Grand Prix
Read the rules! | DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM
2009 Pontiac G8 GT - 6.0L, 6AT - 95k miles | 1994 Chevy Blazer K5 - 350, 5MT - 140k miles | 2006 Mazda 3 S sedan - 2.3L, 5MT - 130k miles
Wife's Car: 2013 Chevy Volt - 70k miles
Bikes: 1979 Yamaha XS 750 | 1985 Honda Sabre 700


Mike is offline Mike's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-21-2014, 05:28 PM   #5
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 5
Rep: 10 ike529az is on a distinguished road
Default mounting repairs

me neither, but its age does. When I start it up, it definitely sounds like a 20 year old car. you know, the rattling, sounds like it needs a new muffler -- the gas cap is caked with rust. I'm afraid to look at the under carriage...I just have a bad feeling about this car even though this model is well known for quality in its day.
I can drive stick if nec. but don't want to on a regular basis. I live in a suburb of Cleveland. I could be wrong but it sounds like if you were me, you would NOT buy a new car and just keep these 2 -- even though you're not a big fan of the Sonata. Its my main car and I've put a ton of $ into in to it (repairs) lucky me. I'd probably sell it for $2500 - I put a modified muffler on it - tinted windows and a new cd system after paying $2300 for it 2 years ago.

Last edited by ike529az; 09-21-2014 at 05:32 PM.

ike529az is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-22-2014, 08:47 AM   #6
Community Director
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 7,602
Rep: 153 Mike has a spectacular aura aboutMike has a spectacular aura about
Default

20 years isn't that bad dude. mufflers can rattle on a 5 year old car. that doesn't affect anything. my thing is that if you can't afford a nearly new car, you shouldn't buy one. and i find it hard to believe you'll put ten grand into that buick.
__________________
"He shouted: 'You've won! Didn't you know?' I didn't, and it's about the nicest thing I've ever been told" -Bruce McLaren, 1968 Belgian Grand Prix
Read the rules! | DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM
2009 Pontiac G8 GT - 6.0L, 6AT - 95k miles | 1994 Chevy Blazer K5 - 350, 5MT - 140k miles | 2006 Mazda 3 S sedan - 2.3L, 5MT - 130k miles
Wife's Car: 2013 Chevy Volt - 70k miles
Bikes: 1979 Yamaha XS 750 | 1985 Honda Sabre 700


Mike is offline Mike's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-22-2014, 12:48 PM   #7
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 5
Rep: 10 ike529az is on a distinguished road
Default Mounting repairs

Yeah you're right. But I'll tell you, I had a 1996 Prism before the Buick. It finally died recently - tranny. So I pulled out all my repair bills and add-ons for the cost of the cars (Prism and the Sonata) for the past 2 1/2 years. Then I averaged it out per month. Then you have to add in that you're getting 2 oil changes - 2 registrations w/plates and 2 sets of misc. supplies to maintain the cars like oil, washer fluid, other fluids, etc., When I calculated that into one figure it came out to $294/ per month!
If I average say $1500 in repairs a year going forward inc. the double charges like I described above, that would be $125/ month for 2 beaters. For and extra 30-40 bucks, I could have an almost new car with better mileage and almost no repairs!

In my mind, its a tough call. You see, that's the whole reason why I'm here in this forum. Maybe with my lack of car knowledge I'm missing something...

ike529az is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-22-2014, 01:32 PM   #8
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 893
Rep: 36 enderx475 is on a distinguished road
Default

I don't think having 2 cars just for the purpose of having a backup car is logical. You'll use the back up car MAYBE a couple of days a year, assuming your car even breaks down to begin with. With the availability of loaner cars and the very small fraction of time you'll be using the backup car, I hardly see how the additional cost of the second car is worth it with insurance and upkeep for it as well.

I say sell the secondary car and use some or all of the money on fixing things on the main car (preventative maintenance).
__________________
Current Car
2002 WRX Stage 2+ w/ Cobb intake, Cobb EBCS, Mishimoto performance radiator, Cobb 3" downpipe, Greddy Evo2 3" Catback, StopTech slotted rotors & pads, stainless steel brake lines, 17x7.5 Gold BBS
Past: 2005 Volvo S60 R, 2003 VW Golf, 1998 Honda Accord

enderx475 is offline enderx475's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-23-2014, 12:24 PM   #9
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 5
Rep: 10 ike529az is on a distinguished road
Default mounting repair bills

I want to make sure you understand my situation. I don't have the luxury of a loaner car. I have no contact with a dealer. I deal with a small auto repair shop. My point in having the 2 cars is that these cars are older cars and I've noticed they do go in the shop, not a lot, but not a little. My mechanic is fair and does an ok job but is slow in his repair time, in other words, my car can be in his shop 2-5 days. The Firestone, NTB Midas shops are always way more expensive than him, that's why I go to him.Imagine in the winter having appts, needing to go shopping and not getting your car for 3-4-5 days. It then makes sense to have the 2 cars. However with 2 old cars needing frequent repairs I ask here, wouldn't be better to just get a 13k car , 2012 model with 10k miles - I saw at least 4 - all rated well by US News - I could sell these 2 for the down payment and get a loan for $160/mo. for 5 years.

Last edited by ike529az; 09-23-2014 at 04:05 PM.

ike529az is offline  
Reply With Quote
Unread 09-23-2014, 04:56 PM   #10
Community Director
 
Mike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 7,602
Rep: 153 Mike has a spectacular aura aboutMike has a spectacular aura about
Default

I would personally trust USNews's results with a grain of salt.

For 2012 you should be looking at a Ford Fiesta or a Chevy Sonic, maybe a Dodge Dart.

They're all three better rated cars than Hyundai or Kia currently have out, and are better value than the Japanese ones.
__________________
"He shouted: 'You've won! Didn't you know?' I didn't, and it's about the nicest thing I've ever been told" -Bruce McLaren, 1968 Belgian Grand Prix
Read the rules! | DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM
2009 Pontiac G8 GT - 6.0L, 6AT - 95k miles | 1994 Chevy Blazer K5 - 350, 5MT - 140k miles | 2006 Mazda 3 S sedan - 2.3L, 5MT - 130k miles
Wife's Car: 2013 Chevy Volt - 70k miles
Bikes: 1979 Yamaha XS 750 | 1985 Honda Sabre 700


Mike is offline Mike's Gallery  
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:20 AM.

Shogun Interactive Development Copyright 2015 Shogun Interactive Development. All rights reserved.