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Unread 10-30-2016, 07:12 AM   #21
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Most of my cars never had A/C or ABS. It is possible to drive a car without those.
Well, its possible to drive without starter motors or even steering wheels, but I've yet to see people going about cranking their cars up and than using a tiller....

Now, to be fair, yes, the need for Air Conditioning is climate dependent. But are you seriously telling me that, in your country, there are no hot days where A/C will be needed if not only to stay focused on the road? If it was never hot, surely you sometimes need to demist the windshield, right?

ABS is a completly different thing. It's necessary on preety much every medium of transportation that I know of, but you only need it when you REALLY need it and while it doesn't happen that often, when it does it can mean the world.

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From what i've gathered this is a project car bud. If the climate is too hot or too cold he can drive one of his other cars. Besides, there's many cars even in the US that don't come with standard A/C. Put down the pitchforks.

ABS necessary on every medium of transportation you know of? What does that mean?

Cars: ABS is standard on most cars, yes. Semis, they're equipped but you can easily lock em up anyway.
Motorcycles: Definitely up and coming, but nowhere near standard.
Bicycles: Not even close.
Trains: Doubt it.
Camels: Unlikely.
Airplanes: ABS wouldn't help much.

You cannot possibly compare things like starter motors and steering wheels to air conditioning and antilock brakes. Get real man.
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Small update

I've been wasting a couple of weeks with trying to find OEM manifolds that work. Lots of room, but they all exit in the wrong place. Finally bit the bullet and bought mounts and headers from Novak. Cost me $900 CDN. The headers fits perfect. Haven't installed the mounts yet, need to pull the engine out so I have room to work.

This last week I fabbed up the accessory drive. I used the Jeep P/S because it was there already, didn't have to buy a GM pump & hoses.


So later this week I'll pull the engine and then the cleaning starts. Clean and paint the engine bay, install the mounts. Tidy up some wiring. Clean and reseal the engine and paint it.

Then the install and fuel hoses, finish the wiring harness, mount rad, etc.
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Well now that I've confirmed that the exhaust and conversion mounts will fit, I've pulled the engine out for the big clean up and detail.

I made up these hoops to facilitate the lifting in and out of the engine and transmission combo.


I only need the one at the rear of the engine when I'm lifting both together. It balances perfect. The hoop clears the firewall easily and can be removed easily afterwords. If I'm lifting only the engine I use both hoops. I do have a tilting engine lift but with the LS engine I don't have the easy lift hooks like the old SB. I also didn't want to remove the intake every time the engine needs to go in or out. I also didn't like the idea of the combined weight of the engine and transmission hanging on those valley plate bolts.

I added a little hand winch with a strap to tilt the whole assembly as I duck the transmission into the tunnel going in. It's a little hard to make out in this photo but the strap is attached to the front pulley.


I can simply wind the front of the engine up and the tail goes down. No effort. I can slip the engine into place in under 2 minutes.

So of course I needed to deal with this rusty battery acid mess before the engine goes in for good.








Getting it pretty.


The engine sitting on the stand naked. New high volume oil pump getting installed, new pan gasket, new rear main seal. Getting painted before the install.
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From what i've gathered this is a project car bud. If the climate is too hot or too cold he can drive one of his other cars.
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ABS necessary on every medium of transportation you know of? What does that mean? Cars: ABS is standard on most cars, yes. Semis, they're equipped but you can easily lock em up anyway.Motorcycles: Definitely up and coming, but nowhere near standard.[...]Airplanes: ABS wouldn't help much.
Allow me to rephrase: Anti-Lock Brakes are better than lockable brakes on any vehicle. That actually does include airplanes, where ABS (then Anti-Blockier System in German, hence the abberivation) debuted.

There is one case where ABS elongates stopping distances and that is on loose surfaces (which are negligible in the mileage of most drivers), but it is the extreme rather than the rule, and even then one would benefit from better control through steering.

I deal with defensive driving and am well aware of the risks involved with driving. So my premise is to consider sudden braking as a possibility in every trip, and hence seek to optimize it, which ABS generally does.

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Baked me some headers!


Got a grease smudge on them from the pot holders!

Not too concerned though, I just want to preserve them for as long as I can.

Got the engine cleaned, sealed up and painted! Looks pretty sweet.






Hanging the engine front and rear, much more stable to work on.


Just when I thought I could get a flywheel holder locally I discovered nobody around here has one, not even the speedshop that's been here for decades. I'd have to wait a week to get one in, so I made one.




With the engine done I can now move on to finishing cleaning and painting the engine bay.
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Interesting. And it looks like its coming along very well. I like sleepers also.
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A little setback

Put the Cherokee up on the hoist again to clean up the underside before the engine goes in. I knew it had some rust under the driver's floor but didn't think it was through. If I can see carpet, that's not good.


Scrapped off the under coating on the passenger side to find this.


I wasn't really looking forward to fixing floors, but I've got all winter to get this finished. Just that my shop is so full with other crap that to pull seats and carpets out and make a big mess is not the best working conditions. The weather is getting new freezing now and even though my shop is heated, I can't be moving stuff outside while I do this. I really hate working in a mess!
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Sounds like the only solution is a bigger shop
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