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Unread 01-26-2009, 08:51 PM   #1
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OK, so my mom is taking out a huge loan and some of that money will go towards paying off my current car, a 2009 Scion tC. I know I can at least get $12k for it at Carmax so I'll have $12k to buy a used car. Car has to have:

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4 cyl for gas millage (turbo or non, doesn't matter)
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Do well in the snow
Prefer 4 door sedan, 2 door acceptable (only wago I like is the new 2008 Impreza)

So far, I only got a few cars picked out.
2000 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS
Audi A4

I've heard the 1.8T broke down faster then the 2.8 but I really don't want the 2.8 because I heard it gets 16MPG city. The main objective is to get a nice cheap AWD car I can drive around in for a year or so and have money left to fix it when it breaks down. There isn't a Subaru shop around here so all the repairs will either have to be done by the dealership or myself. There are a few Euro shops but I'm afraid they'll charge up the arse to fix it and for parts. So far, only 2 cars I like. DO NOT WANT bugeyes (2002-2003 Impreza). They don't look nice to me and I'll end up trading that car once I get it (which is what I want to avoid). Anyone else find a nice AWD car that fits my description nicely and for around $12k and under? There's gotta be more cars out there that fit the descriptions but I'm out of ideas.

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Unread 01-26-2009, 09:46 PM   #2
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I know you can pick up a nice condition, low mileage 04-06 Impreza for less than 10k around here. I'm not sure where you're located, but you could always try cars.com or check out craigslist.

I personally would go for the subaru as I have a few family members with them and they've been nothing but reliable, even in very harsh winters with very little maintenance being done. They live out in the country and to my knowledge have never been stuck, plowed roads or not.
Although they could just be lucky, they haven't had any mechanical problems in many years of driving and through thousands of hard miles.

My cousin's wife bought an audi and it had so many problems that they were forced to sell it, so my experiences with them haven't been so great. Any car can have problems though, regardless of brand.
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Same leaning here. I've had plenty of people around me who swear by Subaru's more recent cars. I know one family that finally sold their 98 Outback still in mint condition due to them staying on top of the upkeep and maintenance. From what I've seen, take good care of them and they'll take good care of you.

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Wait, ..... so your going to have two cars? Or did I miss something. My reading comprehension skills are sometimes that of a 12 year old =P
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Wait, ..... so your going to have two cars? Or did I miss something. My reading comprehension skills are sometimes that of a 12 year old =P
For now, I'm just getting one car. AWD would help me throughout a 4 seasons so I have yet to see a need for a second car unless I'm planning on making one a project car.

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Same leaning here. I've had plenty of people around me who swear by Subaru's more recent cars.
How bout the older cars like the 98-01 Impreza 2.5RS's? I already have one lined up and the guy seems like he babies it very well.

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Audi's are a lot of problems. Really nice cars (I love 'em .. I wanted an older S4 until I looked @ maintenance costs and reliability) but the electronics is just crap. A family friend had a 1.8T back in the day and the dash was always lit up with a bunch of random lights. I live in vancouver by the way ... worst weather we see is rain, and snow maybe a week or a year (except for this year, seeing snow for almost a month!).
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Audi's are a lot of problems. Really nice cars (I love 'em .. I wanted an older S4 until I looked @ maintenance costs and reliability) but the electronics is just crap. A family friend had a 1.8T back in the day and the dash was always lit up with a bunch of random lights. I live in vancouver by the way ... worst weather we see is rain, and snow maybe a week or a year (except for this year, seeing snow for almost a month!).
I've always wondered. Everyone says they have problems in the long run but I want to know what kind of problems I should look for. My friend always tells me "German cars can run for a lifetime if maintained correctly". He's a German freak that wants me to get an Audi but I've heard problems and never know what main problems occur in an A4 with over 100k miles. He just said "Yeah, you're supposed to replace this and that and it should run fine for the next 100k miles".

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any car can run for a lifetime if maintained correctly the problem is people don't understand what it takes to maintain one properly it's not like manufacture minium maintence
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any car can run for a lifetime if maintained correctly the problem is people don't understand what it takes to maintain one properly it's not like manufacture minium maintence
This is very true. Many people just downright don't care about their vehicles.

I take good care of mine, as it needs to be reliable because it gets driven a lot by several people.
My jeep has 172k on the odo and still going very strong with not as much as a hint of letting up.
It has no rust on the unibody, and the only mechanical problems are related to improper maintenance done by careless mechanics.
I change my fluids regularly myself, and as the saying goes an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

My dad's 94 Dodge ram, on the other hand - at 210k miles has needed new front u joints for about 30k miles, and it has a bad case of the (Very loud!) bed spring squeaks. He had his transmission fluid replaced and the idiot was too lazy to apply a proper bead of RTV so it leaks about a quart a day. His power steering pump's hoses are leaking and if he turns sharply for any reason it sprays ps fluid all over his engine bay. Believe it or not, the truck was in pretty good shape 50k miles ago.

He would have it fixed, but can't due to his current condition so I understand why, but it's a good way to show the differences.
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Just an FYI, nearly anything an AWD car can do, a decent FWD car will also do, when it comes to road conditions.. the tires make about 90% of the difference. Reason being is this: You get to a point with a FWD or AWD where they are both cars, and they will high center on a certain amount of snow/ice, at which time a 4X4 truck/SUV would have been a better decision.

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