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Unread 11-25-2009, 11:02 AM   #1
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Toyota Motor Corp. said today it will replace accelerator pedals on 3.8 million recalled vehicles in the United States to address problems with the pedals becoming jammed in the floor mat.
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Unread 11-25-2009, 12:27 PM   #2
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It's about time Toyota recalled them.


Tho, personally, I feel blame lies as much on the drivers of the runaway cars as the defect itself. My friend had a throttle stick open on his '68 Mustang, which has a 350-400HP 351 Cleveland V8 in it. It went from about 15-20MPH to 100+ in the space of a quarter mile, acceleration the affected Toyotas can't come close to. Yet, despite being pinned to his seat by 350-400HP raging out of control, he was able to get it back under control by turning the ignition off. Reson for stick: Plug wire interfering with return spring. I, personally, had a runaway engine one cold morning when I went to start my truck. Three full pumps(As it has a carb), turned the key and the RPMs just kept building. Again, killing the ignition brought it back under control, and since I had the clutch and brake pedals firewalled it didn't go anywhere. Reason for stick: 22 year old throttle cable starting to stick.

Why can't the owners of stuck throttle Toyotas do the same? Key off ---> engine quits running away. Now, don't get me wrong, Toyota screwed up by designing a floor mat/pedal combo that could stick in the first place, but drivers should be able to successfully wrestle control back from a runaway engine or they shouldn't have a license.
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I thought they already recalled the floor mats?
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All they said was for people to remove the mats in the mean time. They were trying to dodge the fact that they didn't design the pedals properly in the first place.
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I totally agree with you Test. I remember hearing about a family that got completely wrecked because the father had the same thing happen and he lost control of the vehicle. The first thing that popped into my head is either mash the clutch or just shift it into neutral. Most cars(like on my car) allow the D -> N freely without hitting the brakes.
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I totally agree with you Test. I remember hearing about a family that got completely wrecked because the father had the same thing happen and he lost control of the vehicle. The first thing that popped into my head is either mash the clutch or just shift it into neutral. Most cars(like on my car) allow the D -> N freely without hitting the brakes.
Same with mine, don't even have to pull forward on the column shifter, you whack it in distress and she goes straight into neutral
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My manual will pull into neutral if the need arises(Tho it does sometimes put up a fight if the engine's pulling hard), and the automatic in my mom's minivan will with a knee tap.
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Get a vehicle with a manual
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My mom's 08 caravan won't let me shift it into N without brakes applied, that sucks. But i mean, even with it floored, with the car moving, your not going anywhere soon. And anyone who didn't steal their license should at least, spam the brakes for the split second reaction time there is to think of a logical move
( i wouldn't think to shut off th ignition under pressure, although with the brakes applied slightly and the acceleratr on the floor, the van still slows, at which point i would shut down and coast onto the shoulder)

That brings up another point, my cousin an i replaced the belt on a ski-doo with the a belt that was too wide (we learn after) and as soon as the engine turned on it started going 10-20km/h without either of us on the sled. We shut off the engine before it left the driveway (it coasted with the engine off), then it proceeded to re-paint the back of my sled, but that's not my point. Point is, people should at least have the vehicle under control in under 2 seconds.
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