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Unread 10-09-2010, 07:23 PM   #1
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HI everybody!...I'm new to the forum! Not an expert mechanic but have put my hands on a few cars that I owned...as a hobby more than anything....always got a box full of leftover parts after reassembling a car though....but heck, it ran, ok.

I want to buy a new car...automatic....and I am going crazy with all the different types of transmissions out there! Correct me if I'm wrong...but for example, a new VW with a DSG is not the same nor does it drive like an older automatic right? Many of the types available nowadays are just a manual transmission but without the clutch pedal right? Which cars, particulary ones sold in Europe, are true automatics? I want them to drive exactly like my old Ford Econoline, my old Porsche 944, my old VW Rabbit, my old Chevy pickup, etc....I would put in in drive (or whatever) and it would pull strongly foward as I let off the brakes, it would not roll back when doing so uphill, it would react instantly to my pressing on the accelerator (or when slowing down), it wouldn't act funny when parking and I needed to go on top of the sidewalk a little (transmission would not hesitate and then suddenly launch me foward like a fool). Many of these modern versions of automatics don't quite "feel" the same and are not as comfortable....or is it just me?

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The semi-automatics are just like a regular automatic except they may have a mode where you can shift it yourself via paddles on the steering wheel. It'll still drive like any automatic when you want it to.
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Yes a DSG is basically a manual transmission that is shifted automatically. But there still are the "old fashioned" kind out there. The difference is that they're mostly controlled electronically using rev/throttle sensors and solenoid valves rather than using vacuum and such. A DSG doesn't use a torque converter, which would make it feel different how you described.

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The new fangled automatics also get just as good fuel economy as manuals compared to the 2-3MPG penalty associated with traditional automatics.
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the only thing the newer ones do for you is change gears like the older ones....and even in that regard some of them suck....try a dsg and try a golf iv automatic (or older) you'll see what I mean. I'm with you on the technology part...it's good to make things better. My car is drive by wire...do I miss all that linkage to and from the accelerator pedal?...heck no....but the pedal works exactly the same....even better I might say. That would be fine in regard to automatics nowadays....but it doesn't. Use the example of being stopped uphill....in these modern automatics the car will roll back just as a manual trans would. I don't care if they put hill-holder or whatever....it's just a bandaid to try to patch up the situation....in a traditional automatic the car would pull foward as you let go of the brakes....to me that's confort....and confort is what I'm refering to....not MPG, technology, etc.

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Even old cars would roll back on a hill if it was steep enough/the car was heavy enough

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Even old cars would roll back on a hill if it was steep enough/the car was heavy enough
Eaxaclty or any high performance car with a big Torque converter. I've driven a few and while I prefer a standard in every way I absolutly love the newer ones and would love to own one. Now Jeeps 6sp Auto is a piece of crap.
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