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Unread 11-09-2010, 01:13 AM   #1
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In Europe and the rest of the world Diesel powered cars are the norm, where as in the United States most of our vehicles are gasoline powered. Generally Diesel is a much better for the environment vehicle as the exhaust is not a toxic to humans. Diesels put out CO2, which can be used by trees and plant life, while gasoline engines put out carbon monoxide, which can be much worse and even more dangerous to our human bio systems.

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Diesel cars are very economic variant if you should drive all the day long because of your work!

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I hope Honda contracts their diesels...
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In Europe and the rest of the world Diesel powered cars are the norm, where as in the United States most of our vehicles are gasoline powered. Generally Diesel is a much better for the environment vehicle as the exhaust is not a toxic to humans. Diesels put out CO2, which can be used by trees and plant life, while gasoline engines put out carbon monoxide, which can be much worse and even more dangerous to our human bio systems.
Why do I feel like I am sitting in class and being read a report by a fellow student?

To assume that diesel magically gets full conversion into CO2 is naive. Carbon monoxide will happen. Furthermore, CO2 is not exactly a worry-free gas since it has greenhouse effects. I'm pretty sure gasoline-powered vehicles put out far more CO2 than carbon-monoxide despite what you imply. Diesel is also better for the environment because you get more power out of the same volume (vs. gasoline), which equates to better mileage for a diesel engine, offsetting the increase in CO2 for diesel over the same amount of gasoline. The way diesel engines work also results in a more efficient system than gasoline. I believe diesel is also easier to produce/refine from petroleum than gasoline - not to mention that it can be made from non-petroleum sources.

A big reason diesel is not popular in the US is that it has been demonized by the public due to its use in semis and machinery. Only relatively recently did the US require things like sulfur content to be significantly reduced, making "clean" diesel engines possible. Still, the stigma behind it stands which is why many companies don't market a diesel-variety car in the US - even if one exists for the same vehicle in another country.

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I'd totally consider a diesel swap if my 300 becomes completely fubar and I don't want to swap in the big block I have in my carport. A 4-53T sounds friggin awesome and will run on damn near anything.
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Why do I feel like I am sitting in class and being read a report by a fellow student?

To assume that diesel magically gets full conversion into CO2 is naive. Carbon monoxide will happen. Furthermore, CO2 is not exactly a worry-free gas since it has greenhouse effects. I'm pretty sure gasoline-powered vehicles put out far more CO2 than carbon-monoxide despite what you imply. Diesel is also better for the environment because you get more power out of the same volume (vs. gasoline), which equates to better mileage for a diesel engine, offsetting the increase in CO2 for diesel over the same amount of gasoline. The way diesel engines work also results in a more efficient system than gasoline. I believe diesel is also easier to produce/refine from petroleum than gasoline - not to mention that it can be made from non-petroleum sources.

A big reason diesel is not popular in the US is that it has been demonized by the public due to its use in semis and machinery. Only relatively recently did the US require things like sulfur content to be significantly reduced, making "clean" diesel engines possible. Still, the stigma behind it stands which is why many companies don't market a diesel-variety car in the US - even if one exists for the same vehicle in another country.
I'm still waiting for biodiesel from algae like they keep promising us...
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