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Unread 04-07-2010, 02:35 AM   #61
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They really aren't that bad. If you want a real gutless wonder look at the mid second generation Camaros. In 1975 the two 350s made 145 HP and 155 HP. There is also the 120 HP 4.4L V8 from 79. The V6s also came with much quicker ratios in the rear end and transmission. All that being sad I actually plan on getting a (78 - 81) second generation Camaro in the future.

But hey, it still make more torque then the newest Honda Civic Type Rs.


You want a real gutless wonder?

1981-1983(Early models) F150 with 3.8L V6. Same engine as in elev8r's car, only with a 2bbl carb.


They were so weak they were available only with a three-on-the-tree or a C4 automatic, with only a shortbed 2WD regular cab body style(They likely couldn't handle the extra weight of anything else) they could barely move the truck. I think they were good for about 150 FT Lbs, when the next weakest engine is making 260-ish FT LBs. Complete moment on Ford putting that thing in there.
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Unread 04-07-2010, 11:27 AM   #62
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You want a real gutless wonder?

1981-1983(Early models) F150 with 3.8L V6. Same engine as in elev8r's car, only with a 2bbl carb.


They were so weak they were available only with a three-on-the-tree or a C4 automatic, with only a shortbed 2WD regular cab body style(They likely couldn't handle the extra weight of anything else) they could barely move the truck. I think they were good for about 150 FT Lbs, when the next weakest engine is making 260-ish FT LBs. Complete moment on Ford putting that thing in there.
They only put the 3.8L V6 into the trucks for 1982, they discontinued it because nobody bought one. What they put in there was a 4.2L (255ci) destroked Windsor V8, that was a turd motor.
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Unread 04-07-2010, 06:31 PM   #63
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They only put the 3.8L V6 into the trucks for 1982, they discontinued it because nobody bought one. What they put in there was a 4.2L (255ci) destroked Windsor V8, that was a turd motor.

The Haynes manual I have on these trucks says it was available from '80 to early '83. Doesn't surprize me that they never sold them in 83, being the gutless wonders they were, but they were available.

Oddly it makes little mention of the 255 V8, but I suppose it's so similar to the 302ci that it wasn't worth it's own chapter. One chapter on the 3.8, one on the 4.9, then one on the V8s. It only mentions the 255 in the preview of the engine section, where it lists the engines they were sold with.
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The Haynes manual I have on these trucks says it was available from '80 to early '83. Doesn't surprize me that they never sold them in 83, being the gutless wonders they were, but they were available.

Oddly it makes little mention of the 255 V8, but I suppose it's so similar to the 302ci that it wasn't worth it's own chapter. One chapter on the 3.8, one on the 4.9, then one on the V8s. It only mentions the 255 in the preview of the engine section, where it lists the engines they were sold with.
Yeah my Haynes manual is like that (same one I'd bet), I just figured it was a one year thing nobody bought. I know 80-82 was weird with engines. They had the 400ci (which is an awesome motor) still and that destroked 302. Not good years for Ford engine design.
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lol. It also lists the 255-specific specs in the specsheet in the general overhaul chapter. Things like bore and stroke. According to my manual, it isn't a de-stroked 302, but a de-bored one. 3.6" bore V 4" bore. Stroke remains the same.
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lol. It also lists the 255-specific specs in the specsheet in the general overhaul chapter. Things like bore and stroke. According to my manual, it isn't a de-stroked 302, but a de-bored one. 3.6" bore V 4" bore. Stroke remains the same.
Ah okay. Interesting.

I always thought it was destroked. Thanks TestE!
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I got a 1973 dodge power wagon w200. Love it. I would get a picture of the dash at night with it running but it's too late right now. I have the original factory tachometer. I have the original build sheet of it stating that! Love this truck. Runs fantastic after a exhaust upgrade to 2 1/4 dual and glass pack mufflers. I enjoy driving it all around. Feel like such a bad ass compaired to every ones 2000 or newer trucks.
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