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paali10 · 01-20-2013, 07:15 AM

Hello guys, me and some of my friends are going to Europe next year to buy a Veteran car, and then drive it trough Europe and back home to Norway.

In Norway the limit for it being a Veteran this year is 1983, It has to be 30 years or older. So, here are the requirements for our car: Maximum year model 1983, needs to be RWD, hold 4 people, needs to have a Manual transmission, preferably a cabriolet (doesn't have to be), needs to be small and be a well handling car, and it needs to be somewhat reliable. We have currently been looking at three cars: Ford Mustang GT 83, Chevrolet Camaro Z28 and the Porsche 944.
At first we all agreed to go for the Z28, but I discovered that this car is pretty rear and expensive with a manual transmission in Europe. Also the motors on the Muscle cars are huge, so that may be a problem. So what we have landed on at the moment is the Porsche 944. I know that the rear seats are not that usable in the Porsche, but if they can be used at all I can make my friends fit in there

Hoping for some car suggestions from you guys.

Thank you,
Paul

**lemans81** · 01-20-2013, 10:09 AM

The 83 Mustang and 83 Camaro are less than idea for any kind of power. I assume that all the same emission controls were on them and if I recall the biggest engine in the Camaro was only 185 HP, and the Mustang slightly less. I am going to assume you use L and not gallons but best case scenario you will get 20 miles per gallon or less(I would expect 15 miles per gallon honestly). The mustang and camaro both had a back seat but its not a pleasant place to be for long trips. I really know nothing of that Porsche so I can't compare anything to it.

I will say that if you find a camaro or mustang and don't care about the power I think both had an option for 4 cylinder engines in those years. Both were very reliable, but they were dogs when it came to power.

**Mike** · 01-20-2013, 11:15 AM

83 Mustang and Camaro don't fit those criteria very well. Old school muscle, no mattter what anyone tells you, isn't as powerful as you'd think, and neither of them will handle even close to decent.

paali10 · 01-20-2013, 11:23 AM

What about the Porsche? Have been looking at the 911 and the 944, the 911's are way expensive but the 944 is descent in pricing. Any recomendations?

paali10 · 01-21-2013, 04:05 AM

I've been looking at the 928 to because of its extra power. The 944 didn't get a Turbo before 1986 or something, and my car can be a maximum 1983 mod. The 928 4.7 L cars have around 300 hp, but are more expensive and I've heard they are expensive if something goes wrong.
Which one should I go for?

**lemans81** · 01-21-2013, 10:41 AM

Here in the states the mustang and camaro have an almost limitless supply of cheap parts for them. I have a friend at work who has a 1981 911(air cooled) and he spends hundreds of dollars a year to keep it running and he only drives about 5000 miles a year.

paali10 · 01-21-2013, 11:09 AM

Mustang GT vs Camaro Z28?

**lemans81** · 01-23-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by paali10

Mustang GT vs Camaro Z28?

Z28 slightly.

01-20-2013, 07:15 AM	#1
paali10 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 10 Rep: 10	4 Seater Sports Vetaran Up To 1983 Mod. Hello guys, me and some of my friends are going to Europe next year to buy a Veteran car, and then drive it trough Europe and back home to Norway. In Norway the limit for it being a Veteran this year is 1983, It has to be 30 years or older. So, here are the requirements for our car: Maximum year model 1983, needs to be RWD, hold 4 people, needs to have a Manual transmission, preferably a cabriolet (doesn't have to be), needs to be small and be a well handling car, and it needs to be somewhat reliable. We have currently been looking at three cars: Ford Mustang GT 83, Chevrolet Camaro Z28 and the Porsche 944. At first we all agreed to go for the Z28, but I discovered that this car is pretty rear and expensive with a manual transmission in Europe. Also the motors on the Muscle cars are huge, so that may be a problem. So what we have landed on at the moment is the Porsche 944. I know that the rear seats are not that usable in the Porsche, but if they can be used at all I can make my friends fit in there Hoping for some car suggestions from you guys. Thank you, Paul

01-20-2013, 10:09 AM	#2
lemans81 Forum Director Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Independence, Missouri Posts: 463 Rep: 12	The 83 Mustang and 83 Camaro are less than idea for any kind of power. I assume that all the same emission controls were on them and if I recall the biggest engine in the Camaro was only 185 HP, and the Mustang slightly less. I am going to assume you use L and not gallons but best case scenario you will get 20 miles per gallon or less(I would expect 15 miles per gallon honestly). The mustang and camaro both had a back seat but its not a pleasant place to be for long trips. I really know nothing of that Porsche so I can't compare anything to it. I will say that if you find a camaro or mustang and don't care about the power I think both had an option for 4 cylinder engines in those years. Both were very reliable, but they were dogs when it came to power. __________________ “If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.” --Mark Twain 2008 Dodge Caravan SXT 2005 Chevy Cobalt

01-20-2013, 11:15 AM	#3
Mike Community Director Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 6,134 Rep: 129	83 Mustang and Camaro don't fit those criteria very well. Old school muscle, no mattter what anyone tells you, isn't as powerful as you'd think, and neither of them will handle even close to decent. __________________ Take me down to the paradise city where the grass is green, and the girls are pretty. \| Save a tree, support your local drag strip! Read the rules! \| DO NOT REPLY TO SPAM \| See a bad post? Just report it! Daily Driver: 1996 Chevy Blazer LT 4x4 - 235k miles Girlfriend's Car: 2003 Oldsmobile Alero GLS 3.4L 4 door - 130k miles Bike: 1981 Yamaha XS 400 [Almost ready!] Plow Truck: 2000 Chevy Silverado 2500 LT - 190k miles [6.0L, 4x4, ECSB, Eaton Rear Locker] Others: 2012 Chevy Cruze automatic, Sonic sedan manual, both 1.4 Turbo, LT trim

01-21-2013, 10:41 AM	#6
lemans81 Forum Director Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Independence, Missouri Posts: 463 Rep: 12	Here in the states the mustang and camaro have an almost limitless supply of cheap parts for them. I have a friend at work who has a 1981 911(air cooled) and he spends hundreds of dollars a year to keep it running and he only drives about 5000 miles a year. __________________ “If you don't read the newspaper, you're uninformed. If you read the newspaper, you're mis-informed.” --Mark Twain 2008 Dodge Caravan SXT 2005 Chevy Cobalt

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01-20-2013, 11:23 AM	#4
paali10 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 10 Rep: 10	What about the Porsche? Have been looking at the 911 and the 944, the 911's are way expensive but the 944 is descent in pricing. Any recomendations?

01-21-2013, 04:05 AM	#5
paali10 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 10 Rep: 10	I've been looking at the 928 to because of its extra power. The 944 didn't get a Turbo before 1986 or something, and my car can be a maximum 1983 mod. The 928 4.7 L cars have around 300 hp, but are more expensive and I've heard they are expensive if something goes wrong. Which one should I go for?

01-21-2013, 11:09 AM	#7
paali10 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 10 Rep: 10	Mustang GT vs Camaro Z28?