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Unread 09-23-2013, 06:17 AM   #1
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Hey guys, this is my first post here

As the title implies, I am looking for a new car.

In particular I am looking for kind of a sporty "fun" car. In other words, I don't need some type of 1000 BHP car, but I would like a car that I can have some fun with on race day.

I am also not rich. I would like to keep the total purchase of the vehicle to less than 2K. That means buying the car and then buying the parts to make the care reliable and look nice (ie. Paint).

I have been looking at the 1985 mazda RX-7. It is a running car for less than a grand, but I would be looking to pretty much gut the whole thing. It needs a new battery, new tires, and a new gas latch JUST to get it in any sort of driving condition.

There is an RX7 that is in pretty darn good condition for 1.8K though. It has had some work done to the engine, the color is exactly what I want, and it seems to be in pretty darn good shape over all.

IDK if I should go for the cheap car and fix it up and potentially have it be better than the 1.8K one, or if I should just get the 1.8K one and call it a day.

Next up would be the pontiac fiero GT. I can find some for about 1.5K and then I could get the body kit to turn it into a ferrari.

Lastly, I have been trying for the life of me to find a car that has the same wheel base and length to use a stock car to turn into a ferrari italia 458 or a aston martin DB5. I was also looking the the lamborghini seisto elemento, but I think the carbon fiber work is going to be just plain too difficult. If I were to go with a car to build up to a kit car, I would like to spend less than 2K to get a working car. The kit would be an independent purchase.

I do have someone who can do a lot of the work, or teach me how to do my own work.

That all being the case, my question to you guys is as follows. If you had 2K to spend on a car, what would you buy an why? It can be something I have listed above, or it can be a totally different car.

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Lastly, I have been trying for the life of me to find a car that has the same wheel base and length to use a stock car to turn into a ferrari italia 458 or a aston martin DB5. I was also looking the the lamborghini seisto elemento, but I think the carbon fiber work is going to be just plain too difficult. If I were to go with a car to build up to a kit car, I would like to spend less than 2K to get a working car. The kit would be an independent purchase.
Is this some kind of joke I'm not getting? You don't just turn a beater into a Ferrari. That just... what?

Anyway, if your budget is THAT tight I would not get a RX-7. The might be a decent choice, though if it were me and my budget really was that tight, I'd stick with something plain, simple, reliable, and cheap like Honda or Toyota. Don't kid yourself... if your budget is that low (which is FINE, we all started there), you probably don't have much to burn on repairs. A RX-7 won't be that car IMO.
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Is this some kind of joke I'm not getting? You don't just turn a beater into a Ferrari. That just... what?

Anyway, if your budget is THAT tight I would not get a RX-7. The might be a decent choice, though if it were me and my budget really was that tight, I'd stick with something plain, simple, reliable, and cheap like Honda or Toyota. Don't kid yourself... if your budget is that low (which is FINE, we all started there), you probably don't have much to burn on repairs. A RX-7 won't be that car IMO.
Uhhh I kind of get the point of not being able to take a ho hum chassis and stick a ferrari shell on it and call it a ferrari....but I think you are somewhat mistaken as to what my intentions are. It might piss you off, but quite frankly I want the 458 shell because it looks nice. I honestly could not care less about the performance or the specs. Or maybe I would care, if I lived close to a proper race track or circuit. But the only thing we have around here is the occasional rally race and I simply don't have the money to join them.

That all being said, my only goal with a kit car would be education an nothing but education. If my hypothetical POS car needs a new engine, then I get to learn how to replace an engine. If the car needs body work, then I get to learn how to do body work, and so on.

The point of changing the shell in particular is to learn how to work with fiberglass/carbon fiber. The fact that it would be a ferrari or otherwise is simply out of personal taste. If I did not care about looks, I would probably choose the shell of some car with a bunch of straight lines so that the body work would be simple. But again, I would still switch the shells simply for the interest of learning.

Another thing, the 2K budget is sort of a fuzzy line. 2K is more of an initial investment. I was planning on 40K for my final car over a 5-10 year period. Plus, the car is going to be sitting in a garage probably until next summer.

You have to understand that I am driving around in a honda civic that has had some serious issues. The mechanic (while being a very nice guy) never really seems to repair the car...right.

Before the civic, it was the same problem with a corolla.

I am tired of these "reliable cars" that are more unreliable than my neighbors old jaguar. That is why I want to rebuild a car and rebuild it right.

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Uhhh I kind of get the point of not being able to take a ho hum chassis and stick a ferrari shell on it and call it a ferrari....but I think you are somewhat mistaken as to what my intentions are. It might piss you off, but quite frankly I want the 458 shell because it looks nice. I honestly could not care less about the performance or the specs. Or maybe I would care, if I lived close to a proper race track or circuit. But the only thing we have around here is the occasional rally race and I simply don't have the money to join them.

That all being said, my only goal with a kit car would be education an nothing but education. If my hypothetical POS car needs a new engine, then I get to learn how to replace an engine. If the car needs body work, then I get to learn how to do body work, and so on.

The point of changing the shell in particular is to learn how to work with fiberglass/carbon fiber. The fact that it would be a ferrari or otherwise is simply out of personal taste. If I did not care about looks, I would probably choose the shell of some car with a bunch of straight lines so that the body work would be simple. But again, I would still switch the shells simply for the interest of learning.

Another thing, the 2K budget is sort of a fuzzy line. 2K is more of an initial investment. I was planning on 40K for my final car over a 5-10 year period. Plus, the car is going to be sitting in a garage probably until next summer.

You have to understand that I am driving around in a honda civic that has had some serious issues. The mechanic (while being a very nice guy) never really seems to repair the car...right.

Before the civic, it was the same problem with a corolla.

I am tired of these "reliable cars" that are more unreliable than my neighbors old jaguar. That is why I want to rebuild a car and rebuild it right.
OK, I totally misunderstood your goals here. I apologize. My guess is that a 458 shell will not be easy (or cheap) to come across. I can only wish you luck on that one.

The difference between your civic and your neighbors jag is the service and repairs. The jag will require more regular and expensive servicing, which they probably do, in which case the jag will probably be just fine for a long run. A civic couldn't give less ****s about being denied regular servicing or being run on a tight budget... that's why they're great cars. I can't speak for yours, but this is my experience by and large .
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Hey guys, this is my first post here

As the title implies, I am looking for a new car.

In particular I am looking for kind of a sporty "fun" car. In other words, I don't need some type of 1000 BHP car, but I would like a car that I can have some fun with on race day.

I am also not rich. I would like to keep the total purchase of the vehicle to less than 2K. That means buying the car and then buying the parts to make the care reliable and look nice (ie. Paint).

I have been looking at the 1985 mazda RX-7. It is a running car for less than a grand, but I would be looking to pretty much gut the whole thing. It needs a new battery, new tires, and a new gas latch JUST to get it in any sort of driving condition.

There is an RX7 that is in pretty darn good condition for 1.8K though. It has had some work done to the engine, the color is exactly what I want, and it seems to be in pretty darn good shape over all.

IDK if I should go for the cheap car and fix it up and potentially have it be better than the 1.8K one, or if I should just get the 1.8K one and call it a day.

Next up would be the pontiac fiero GT. I can find some for about 1.5K and then I could get the body kit to turn it into a ferrari.

Lastly, I have been trying for the life of me to find a car that has the same wheel base and length to use a stock car to turn into a ferrari italia 458 or a aston martin DB5. I was also looking the the lamborghini seisto elemento, but I think the carbon fiber work is going to be just plain too difficult. If I were to go with a car to build up to a kit car, I would like to spend less than 2K to get a working car. The kit would be an independent purchase.

I do have someone who can do a lot of the work, or teach me how to do my own work.

That all being the case, my question to you guys is as follows. If you had 2K to spend on a car, what would you buy an why? It can be something I have listed above, or it can be a totally different car.
$2k?

Beggar's Can't Be Choosers.

Get something solid that runs, like and old Volvo 240 or 740 or 940, Chevy Cavalier, Jeep Cherokee, Ford Pint---- I mean Thunde--- I mean... well.... not a ford. Not a $2000 ford.

Get to work and save up some $$$. Then start shopping once your living and financial situation is better.

FYI, an RX7 is not a poor man's car. They may be cheap, but they are NOT reliable. You will have problems, and they will add up.
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Lol the italia body is like $100,000 alone. Keep dreaming (although I might be in the market for a $2000 car for a week)
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Yeah if I recall the kit to turn a fiero into any exotic cars, ten years ago cost $18,000-$50,000. For just a fun car that is cheap and mostly reliable, try finding a last gen Cavalier Z24 with a stick, they actually handled fairly well and were fun to toss around. Early 2000s Nissan Sentra SE-R's with the six speed manual weren't too bad for just fun.
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Lol the italia body is like $100,000 alone. Keep dreaming (although I might be in the market for a $2000 car for a week)
Look, guys, ignore the price of all the parts, bits, and bobs.

Just focus on a plain stock chassis. I PROMISE you that I will have everything else covered.

If my situation at home were any different, then I would be essentially looking for a rolling chassis for 2K. At the moment I only need something that will drive me to and from school as I make repairs.

My total budget for the car is more like 10K. It's 2K for the car (which is all I really need help with), a couple grand for a new engine, new interior, paint, potential body work, and so on.

Money is NOT the issue. The only reason I said 2K for the initial car is because that is how much I can spend on a chassis and gut the thing as much as possible.

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If you ONLY want a chassis to build a poor man's Ferrari on, get a Fiero. Done deal. Quintessential answer. Half the Ferraris in the world have some exotic body on them.
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