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Unread 10-02-2013, 10:35 AM   #1
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So I've got the '05 S60 R right now. It's a total blast but is more expensive than I anticipated in gas (premium)/parts/maintenance. I commute every day so it adds up fairly quickly. I'm looking to switch it up for something more economical but obviously fun to drive.

I've tested out a Civic Si which was decent fun. Handles better than the Volvo and gets way, WAY better gas mileage but is a good bit slower which isn't that big of an issue. Fairly cheap as well, so that's a pretty good option. Plus it's a Honda Civic... 'nuff said.

Can you guys help me think of some more options to investigate? I'm just looking for something that's "pokey" (doesn't need to be fast, like max 7-8 second 0-60), is cheap, and reliable, much like the Civic Si.
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10k (ish). Anything up to like 13

I've been looking at both the 8th and 9th generation civic si, I like both to be honest. The 8th gen would be a lot cheaper, I'm honestly leaning towards that so I can free up come of my cash for other stuff
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Civic Si has been steadily getting worse over its time in production. I would not buy an 8th or 9th gen model.
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Civic Si has been steadily getting worse over its time in production. I would not buy an 8th or 9th gen model.
Would you care to elaborate, specifically why this would not be a good fit for my criteria?
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Well honestly Civics in general have been getting worse over time (ask anyone that, the 2012 Civic was actually bad enough they emergency refreshed it). But Hondas over recent years have gotten significantly harder to work on, shedding their reputation as simple, and frankly they've just lost their fizz. Faster, but worse.


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You're still a little short on specifics... what exactly has "gotten worse" (or "lost their fizz" for that matter)? You mentioned that they're harder to work on but thats it really. Are there any reliability issues with the Si?

What was the fuss with the 2012 Civic?

It's funny you link Top Gear because while Clarkson was very disappointed with the 9th gen Civic Si, he absolutely loved the 8th gen Civic Si... though as I found out on one of my other threads, the american 8th gen Si had a drastically reduced redline.
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Watch the two videos i linked, they explain it well. The latest models don't have a personality, no soul. No steering feedback, they don't talk to you. Suit yourself but i wouldn't own a car without a personality.

FWIW, clarkson reviewed the Type R, not the Si. It wasn't so much a review you should consider, more just demonstrating Honda's performance models deteriorating away.

As for the 2012 Civic, google it. First time in 20 years Consumer Reports took it off their recommended list.
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/n...mend/index.htm

And that's from the people that are notoriously import biased, as well as completely uncaring of any car's character, they only care about measurable statistics, how cars work as appliances. And the 2012 Civic failed at that.
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Suit yourself but i wouldn't own a car without a personality.
That's something I've never thought about. (I'm new here). I'm wondering if there are some thread talking about the souls in cars here? Seems fascinating to me.

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Well honestly Civics in general have been getting worse over time (ask anyone that, the 2012 Civic was actually bad enough they emergency refreshed it). But Hondas over recent years have gotten significantly harder to work on, shedding their reputation as simple, and frankly they've just lost their fizz. Faster, but worse.
This. When they lost their SLA suspension they lost what made them great.
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