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Unread 02-09-2014, 02:45 PM   #1
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I currently am driving a 2000 Oldsmobile Intrigue GLS, which I love to death but it's getting near the time for me to get a new vehicle. This will be a vehicle for a small commute (~30 minutes, ~30miles, all highway) for university, and the occasional 3 hour road trip to neighboring cities. I do live in a winter climate state, and the Intrigue up until this year (mixture of this abnormally bad winter where I am and not having proper tires on the car right now) hasn't had any handling issues with the snow.

I'm looking for relatively recent year models (trying to keep it 2010 or newer, but older is fine as long as the miles are ridiculously high) sedans (coupes are okay too). I want to get decent gas mileage but I also don't want a "slouch" of a car. I don't have a ton of brand loyalty, especially because Oldsmobile is no longer around. I've found some German cars that look nice, but am worried about the maintenance costs if something were to happen. Aside from maintenance costs, insurance cost should be taken into consideration, but isn't as important as maintenance cost.

Currently I've found good deals on:

-2011 and 2013 Dodge Chargers. I'm worried about maintenance and insurance on these, other than that they seem super sleek.

-2009 Benz C300 4Matic. I would really love to have one of these, but maintenance and insurance makes me question if its actually affordable.

-2013 Mazda 3 i Sport. I'm worried about the size of this car, and how it'll hand in the winter.

-2013 Kia Optima EX. Only thing I'm worried about the the Optima is whether or not it'll be a slouch compared to my Intrigue.

-2011 Volkswagen CC Sport. Same concern as the C300. I've seen some people say Volkswagens aren't as expensive as the other German engineers, but I wasn't sure if those statements were concerning the VW Jetta/Passat lines, or if it encompassed the CC too.

-2011 Ford Fusion SEL. One of my friends told me the 2011 Fusions had some reliability issues, can someone else confirm? I don't like this nearly as much as the Mazda3 or the Optima either.

-2012 Chevy Malibu LTZ (4 cylinder). Same concerns as the Fusion, and also whether or not the 4 cylinder would come off as a "slouch".

-2012 Chevy Malibu (6 cylinder). Was told mpg with the 6 cylinder Malibus was horrible. Is that a unanimous experience?

I've also found some coupe/sport cars that are in my range (2012 Camaro 2LS, 2011 Camaro 1LS, 2009 Mustang) but figured between the RWD, insurance, and maintenance costs, would be out of budget.

If you have any other suggestions of vehicles for me to look for in the area, I'll try and find them in my area. Thanks in advance for any advice/help!

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Charger: You should be worried about insurance. Also won't get the fuel economy the others will.

Mercedes: It will be probably the most expensive maintenance wise. Affordability doesn't lend its hand to Mercedes-Benz. Never has, never will. It will also be one of the best to drive and highest performance.

Mazda3: You've got nothing to worry about in terms of winter driving. It will be on par with any of the other FWD cars if not better. Also great driving cars.

Optima: Not a bad option. With the 6 speed modern transmission, even with a slight power deficit this will be faster than your Intrigue. Pretty much all of these will be.

CC: VW is struggling reliability wise in recent years. They're also doing their best to make their cars as boring as possible, so if that matters to you i'd pass.

Fusion: Excellent choice. The Fusions have been good cars all along and the second generation is no exception. I've heard nothing about the transmissions.

Malibus (both): I'm a GM fan and I wouldn't buy one. Nothing particularly good about them, and in comparison to, for example, the Fusion there's really no upside to the Malibus.

As far as sports cars, yes the insurance will be higher (no more so than with the Charger or the Mercedes, though). Maintenance would be very similar, mileage would likely be a little worse.

I would say top 3 would be the Fusion, Mazda3, and Merc (if you feel like spending a bit more money).

I would have a look at a Chrysler 300 (2011+). A little bigger and RWD, but worth a drive anyway.
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I would have a look at a Chrysler 300 (2011+). A little bigger and RWD, but worth a drive anyway.
Thanks man! Pretty much reassuring most of what I've read. I don't know a whole lot about engines, which is why I came to this forum to help me decide.

I did take a look at the Chrysler 300, and didn't like it a whole not. Just wasn't overly appealing to me when compared to the things like the Fusion, Optima, or Mazda 3.

It's really too bad about the Charger, they're beautiful cars. The 2011 and 2013 Chargers both have 18/27mpg which is the same rating my Intrigue has, though my highway mileage is only like 19 in the Intrigue. I could never figure out why.

While I do want this car to last a really long time, if I'm going to be getting something thats going to hike up my insurance and that are going to be relatively expensive to upkeep, I'd rather have a Camaro/Charger than the C300, even though the C300 is also a beautiful car.

I'll keep that in mind about the Mazda 3, if my only concern is unfounded, it's a real contender.

If I won't find the Optima a "slouch" compared to my Intrigue, I'm keeping this on my list. I personally think the 2013 Optima has both a phenomenal interior and exterior. If it drives well too, I'll keep my eye on it. Does Kia as a brand have anything I should be concerned with? I don't know anyone who drives anything Kia other than the new Optimas.

The CC was on here because I just happened to run into what seems like a wonderful deal on one. I'm not a HUGE VW fan anyways, but I thought I would include it regardless.

I'll keep that in mind about the Fusion. My friend (who admittedly doesn't like Ford as a brand much, though he loves Mustangs) just said he had heard the Fusions were having some issues. I'm glad to hear that isn't accurate.

The only reason I included the Malibu is because my sister drives a Cruze and loves it, so I thought I'd include a Chevy because of how much she likes hers. I'm just not interested in a Cruze, though they are nice cars.

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You could get a focus with a 5speed. they've fixed the reliability since I've owned mine, it's somewhat quick, gets great gas mileage (35/50 cty/hwy is about what I averaged).

Just don't get a 2door. because that $15K focus turns into a sports car (IE your insurance goes up 25% off the bat)
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Thanks man! Pretty much reassuring most of what I've read. I don't know a whole lot about engines, which is why I came to this forum to help me decide.

I did take a look at the Chrysler 300, and didn't like it a whole not. Just wasn't overly appealing to me when compared to the things like the Fusion, Optima, or Mazda 3.

It's really too bad about the Charger, they're beautiful cars. The 2011 and 2013 Chargers both have 18/27mpg which is the same rating my Intrigue has, though my highway mileage is only like 19 in the Intrigue. I could never figure out why.

While I do want this car to last a really long time, if I'm going to be getting something thats going to hike up my insurance and that are going to be relatively expensive to upkeep, I'd rather have a Camaro/Charger than the C300, even though the C300 is also a beautiful car.

I'll keep that in mind about the Mazda 3, if my only concern is unfounded, it's a real contender.

If I won't find the Optima a "slouch" compared to my Intrigue, I'm keeping this on my list. I personally think the 2013 Optima has both a phenomenal interior and exterior. If it drives well too, I'll keep my eye on it. Does Kia as a brand have anything I should be concerned with? I don't know anyone who drives anything Kia other than the new Optimas.

The CC was on here because I just happened to run into what seems like a wonderful deal on one. I'm not a HUGE VW fan anyways, but I thought I would include it regardless.

I'll keep that in mind about the Fusion. My friend (who admittedly doesn't like Ford as a brand much, though he loves Mustangs) just said he had heard the Fusions were having some issues. I'm glad to hear that isn't accurate.

The only reason I included the Malibu is because my sister drives a Cruze and loves it, so I thought I'd include a Chevy because of how much she likes hers. I'm just not interested in a Cruze, though they are nice cars.

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300: That's a shame, but I'm not here to tell you what you should like

You should be getting FAR more than 19 mpg out of your Olds. My mom had a Grand Prix with the 3.8 and could pull 30 out of it. Girlfriend has an Alero and can do the same. But I'm not here to tell you how to get better mileage out of your car.

Kia's reliability and quality in general has MASSIVELY improved in the last 10-15 years. While they used to be cheap Korean crap, they are truly competitive now. The biggest negative in buying one IMO is going to be a lower resale value because their reputation is still harder to change than their cars. On one side of that, you'll get a used one a bit cheaper than a similarly equipped Ford, or Honda, or Toyota, etc. On the other end, when you do sell it, you'll get the inverse in that you won't be able to sell for as much as someone with a similarly equipped Civic.

Piece of advice, no offense to your friend but ignore them. The majority of people don't know what they're talking about frankly. A whole lot of people watch some youtube videos and call themselves a gearhead and then talk out their ass about cars they don't like. Honestly I would even take most of my friends car advice with a grain of salt unless they're actually in the industry. The Fusion is a great choice.

My mom has a Cruze and my sister has a Sonic, I've been a Chevrolet fan my whole life. Look at my signature and see if you spot a trend. I'd recommend a Chevy all day long if I could, but the 2012 Malibu was the same car it was in 2008 and it wasn't good when it came out. If a Cruze isn't an option then a Sonic definitely isn't, and the only other option would be the new Impala (and only the newest 2014 model, anything else is crap), which is obviously out of your price range, however great a car.
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You could get a focus with a 5speed. they've fixed the reliability since I've owned mine, it's somewhat quick, gets great gas mileage (35/50 cty/hwy is about what I averaged).

Just don't get a 2door. because that $15K focus turns into a sports car (IE your insurance goes up 25% off the bat)
I'll look into it. I had originally tried finding a Focus (it's actually how I found the deal[s] on the Fusions) but didn't see any competitively priced around me. Granted, I wasn't looking very hard but I'll be sure to keep that in mind.

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Piece of advice, no offense to your friend but ignore them. The majority of people don't know what they're talking about frankly. A whole lot of people watch some youtube videos and call themselves a gearhead and then talk out their ass about cars they don't like. Honestly I would even take most of my friends car advice with a grain of salt unless they're actually in the industry. The Fusion is a great choice.
C300: It's nothing against Benz. They truly are beautiful, but I personally would prefer more of muscle/sport car. A lot of the people I know drive Benz (and the other German car manufacturers) and I do know how nice they are and its a hard offer to pass up.

I know my Intrigue should have been getting more than 19. When my sister had the car (she had it for 6 years before I had it, and I have for 3) I wonder if she did something to it to make the engine not run properly. I know when I first got it the wrong type of oil was in the car, but I had assumed that was a one time thing.

Its good to know. I'm planning on driving this car for a lot longer than I did my Intrigue (as I said above, my Intrigue was handed down to me) and already had 100,000mi on it. It wasn't meant to be a whole lot more than a first car to both my sister and I. But its good to know about the resale value.

I figured as much about my friend, which is why I came to this forum site. I love computers (to the point where I'm personal friends with the some of the techs at school and they've had me run and do upgrades in machines for them because they were busy / swamped with upgrades) and I know for computers (so I figured it was true for cars too) that people don't always know what they're talking about.

I too really like the Chevy cars. The Cruze (and I guess Sonic) just isn't/aren't my thing. I'll keep that in mind about the Impalas though. One of my friends drives one (no idea on the year, it's an older one though) and I know she loves hers. If I happen to see a 14 Impala in my range with clean reports, I'll look into it.

Thanks again for the help!

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I found a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT in my price range. ~40,000miles, clean AutoCheck and CarFax. Should I consider it?

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Most definitely! G8s are excellent cars!
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Should I be worried about insurance or maintenance costs with a G8?

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Should I be worried about insurance or maintenance costs with a G8?
For the insurance, just get a quote from your current provider. Hard for us to really say, it's relative to you.
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