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Unread 03-16-2016, 09:59 PM   #1
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Hello all,

Just secured funding for a new car. The vehicle being replaced is a 2001 Toyota Corolla, it has done me well and only has 56k on it. I have zero knowledge on vehicles of any type and the only thing I can really go on is a large amount of technical experience.

A problem with the Toyotas is it appears the media interface they use is not universal and you have to rely on them for updates. Can it be assumed this is true of all manufacturers? The other companies are all using an alliance with Apple and Google, Toyota was the only one (of the big 5) to not do so. I have a Moto G 2nd-gen with plans in the near future to upgrade to a 128-gig Nexus 6P (my Google Fi invite) and want to ensure all of the better features. Minimum requirements are Pandora & Sirius, GPS Nav, SMS and/or voice recognition and maybe just using the phone via the car's interface with "Miracast," I have a Google Chromecast I enjoy.

I looked at the 2016 Corollas and someone said rear disc braking was important. Only three of the 12 models have it, in the S line. I am looking at Hondas, maybe Kias and maybe maybe Hyundai or VW, my family and I have always had great luck with Toyotas, a Honda I once owned was a good vehicle. Honda Civics come in a hybrid.

Corollas don't come in hybrid, a Prius or Camry with any real features (the in-dash with options) cost too much. I would like to get in to a hybrid if I can get the features. It is important that the car is a full sedan (full sized, the Yaris and Prius c/vs or any of the other small-frames look terrible). One thing that does bother me about my little 2001 is the road noise, I ride in an '07 Camry now and then and the difference is immense.

What would you suggest? The budget is $20-25k with some wiggle room, I know that is low and I am asking for a lot, the main points in order are reliability, size, good media system, rear disc braking and hybrid. Reliability is first and foremost. I glanced at an aftermarket stereo upgrade via Geek Squad, it looks like a lot of investment there too, it might be an option? You don't need to tell me to get my priorities straight, I already know what I don't know. Any assistance is welcome.

TL;DR New Toyota, Honda, Kia, Hyundai or VW for reliability? 20-30k tops Sedan, rear disc braking and feature-rich media system.

Thank you,

Ryan

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I looked at the 2016 Corollas and someone said rear disc braking was important.
It isn't.

The brake bias in every road car is relying massively on the front rather than the rear, for weight distribution (typically front-biased), weight transfer (to the front), suspension design and stability concerns.

It's also worth mentioning that the limiting factor in stopping the car quickly is the tyres' road holding, rather than the brakes, much less the brake type, both of which being able to exert similar rates of deceleration anyway.

In normal use, both wear down in quite the same fashion, and if anything the drums could outlast the discs.

So just pick the car you like for it's substance rather than it's additional features. I'd recommend a test drive of each to evaluate things like comfort, usability, driveability, operating costs and also check safety features and crash tests.

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The input is appreciated. I am sure the person that recommended them knew they were a low percentage as I do (only because I have pads replaced on mine). Maybe there is something to do with servicing them or the cost of replacements?

The real concern and question is reliability. I realize it is one that is difficult for some and this forum is generally used by American muscle car aficionados. I have always heard that some of the Jap motors outlast anything and Toyotas go half a million, etc. It is generally down to getting a Corolla or a Honda Civic Hybrid. Somone likes Kia and someone said Mitsubishi, I don't know much about them. Any ideas on which are long-lasting or low-service? Your assistance is valued.

Ryan

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Honda accord, would be my first choice, leased 3 of them 2006, 2009, 2013.

Hyundai sonatas are good car too, i had 2, 2011 hybrid, and now 2016 sport.

my hybrid was not saving me anything in the city, on the highway if i drove certain way, i could get upto 50mpg, but it was very boring way to drive. otherwise in the city it did not use any less fuel than 4 cyl accord i had before and after. it was even worst in the winter.

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