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Unread 06-28-2016, 10:51 AM   #11
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Guess I could just buy a corolla and stick a turbo in it and firm suspension
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have you done it before? you do realize there are dozens of other things that would have to be done, besides turbo. and cost associated with all that.


do not get me wrong i'm not trying to put you down or anything, i just have seen many such cars towed to our shop to fix them, and put them back as they were, very few actually succeed in doing such mods correctly.

visit used cars lot, see what your 10g can buy you, test drive those cars.

but if you insist on slapping a turbo, do not mess with corolla, get civic. civics have huge aftermarket support, and very popular among enthusiasts. so there is no shortage of parts\information. or you can get civic SI, and not do anything to it.

btw 10g can get you 10-12 years old bmw 335 (factory twin turbo), thou beemers are not cheap to maintain, and fix. but nothing is more fun to drive than 335, (for the price) small, mad fast and handles excellent.

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Guess I could just buy a corolla and stick a turbo in it and firm suspension
Doing that to a Corolla would mean going over budget, not getting good mpg, AND losing that toyota "reliability"
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True that.

And just to add to that: There's a logical order to modifications, and in that order the drivetrain always comes LAST.

You have to first adjust the driver, the human-machine interface, the brakes, the handling and the grip and ride in much the same as that order.

Often you than discover that adding power is not needed. Alternatively, done backwards and you tend to slow down to deal with what turns out to be excess power.

You always need to have drive-ability in mind rather than outright performance. You can't use it all on the road anyhow, and besides the limiting factor tends to be forward planning at speed rather than anything else.

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another thing about stiffening suspension, all unibody flex, some more some less, i have seen windshield cracked, and rear windows shatter, in lowered, almost no springs, cars, some cars can take very stiff suspension, others not so much, you do not want to over do it, especially with econoboxes like corola or civic.
and i'm not even talking about creaks and rattles that you'll hear quite a lot after stiffening.

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Also very true.

The fashion of stiffening up cars anyway comes from race-cars, but these need very stiff suspension to not sag under the aero downforce and not roll over the slicks, and they run on very smooth tracks.

Yes, a stiff suspension gives quicker response, but progressive drivers do not need that quick response and much less the osciliation that follows because the chassis cushions the bumps and weight transfer.

The chassis isn't infinitely stiff so it effectivelly has a spring rate, but NO damping, so relying on it for spring-action tends to result in poor handling.

Also, a harsh ride really makes it hard to drive properly. You also have less roll, but roll is a sort of feedback, too, and on modern tires it does little in the way of reducing performance.

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