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Unread 01-04-2007, 08:11 AM   #1
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I'd like some advice if anyone can help.
I'm comtemplating buying a 93L BMW 316i, the owner wants 800.
It has no tax, MOT until 10/01/2007 (few days), theres approx 108000 on the clock but it only has a sketchy paper history, documentation running from 1999-2003 with gaps.
Fair price?

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Unread 01-04-2007, 01:20 PM   #2
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If the car seems to be in sound condition, it seems like a decent price. I would surely climb under the car, and look for anything heavily rusted or damaged, then pop the hood and inspect to see that nothing look new, like from a crash it may have been in, and then test drive the hell out of it, for a good 30min or so. That will give the car time to heat up and act as it would on an everyday drive. turn hard in it, brake hard ect. make sure it doesnt make any bad sounds and the steering/brakes feel "tight". Also take a quick look at the oil filter and see how old it looks. if its old looking it probably means he doesnt change the oil as often as he should.
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Unread 01-04-2007, 11:39 PM   #3
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Lol your member name is 3 Series? nice.

Anyways I have a '96 318is with nearly 170,000 miles, so a '93 with 108,000 miles should be in fine condition, there are zero problems with my car besides a worn clutch and rear tires from all those 5,000RPM+ launches and drifts I've been doing.

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Look out for the usual things you would on any car particularly the mileage as BMW's handle mileage well so look for anything that could show its been clocked. A car of that age should still be fairly sound unless its been badly neglected. The mileage is about average so everything should still feel reasonably good. Engine wise the 4 cylinder jobs, if they have been serviced correctly they are pretty robust. Look for signs of accident damage, overspray and the like. Rear springs can break on them without you realising but they will have a bit of a tinny rattle over bumps if one has gone. Check for creamy gunge under the oil filler cap which will signify head gasket gone. Look at the tyres for uneven wear as this can signify things like tracking, steering or suspension problems. I could probably go on and on but just take your time and if possible have a good long test drive and whilst its warmed up check temp gauge is OK should be half way up and if anything doesn't seem right forget it there will be plenty more out there. Yes the price seems about right but dont buy a lemon just because its cheap. For about 1000 to 1200 you should be able to get a mint E30 316i will full history etc which would be a much better buy. An E36 316i in mint condition with full history of that age and mileage would be about 1500. Unless you sure of yourself don't take on a potential money pit. Could be worth 50 to put it thru an MOT first to found out what if any problems there are. Hope this helps a little, Good luck, Steve.
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Much appreciated, I've decided to pay for the test just to make sure, although after driving it for a second time, for much longer I've got to say, in my limited driving experience its one of the smoothest (Ex-Escort & Fiat Punto owner!) drives.
So not much grounds for comparison really!

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Cool, sounds like you found a nice deal. You're going to love the car, 316 and 318s are made fun of constantly on the bimmerforums for being underpowered but damn they're fun and handle really well.

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Yeah, for 800 pounds, and on 108000 kilometers, I'd say its a bargain, even if it has some faults.
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With that kind of "mileage" that is a steal. If there is nothing wrong with it you should snatch that car up.
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The BMW has FAILED its MOT.

Ok here goes.......
Reasons for refusal;

01 Nearside front position lamp not in good working order (not working)
02 Offside front position lamp not in good working order (not working)
03 Nearside rear position lamp not in good working order (not working)
04 Offside stop lamp not working
05 Nearside registration plate lamp not working
06 Offside rear fog lamp adversely affected by the operation of another lamp
07 Nearside rear tyre is incorrect as different size tyres fitted on same axle
08 Nearside rear brake pipe inadequately repaired or unsuitable joint fittings
09 Offside rear brake pipe inadequately repaired or unsuitable joint fittings
10 Offside rear brake hose excessively chafed
11 Nearside front brake pipe inadequately supported
12 Offside front brake pipe inadequately supported
13 Nearside rear brake pipe inadequately supported
14 Offside rear brake pipe inadequately supported
15 Nearside front brake disc excessively pitted
16 Offside front brake disc excessively pitted
17 Offside front suspension arm has excessive play in ball joint

Plus....2 advisory notices

18 Slight exhaust blow
19 Centre exhaust bracket missing

I had the test carried out at a BMW garage, when I asked for a quote they starting talking with too many zeros!
So I phoned a good friend of mine who owns a rather nice v-plate 328, he gets all his work carried out at a place in Newcastle called AutoBavaria, after having a chat with George( Ex-BMWService engineer), he explained the brake work needed is down to poor repair work at a less reputable garage, the brake pipes in fact have to be fitted whilst the tank is removed from the car, the other garage have just worked around this and used the wrong fittings-resulting in the failure, about £250 and he can put it right. Another £200 for discs and pads, something about the lamps have to be replaced in whole rather than just adjusted/fixed/new bulbs????? Anyone help on accuracy of this? £100ish a piece. plus the other stuff!

Very pleased I spent the fifty quid to get it MOT'd before agreeing to buy.

I'm still tempted to offer him £100 and pay the repairs as I'm assured a rounder figure than the add-ups would signify....

or keep looking?

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Lol none of that stuff sounds like a deal breaker to me although I would take care of those brake discs. I drive my 318is every day and it's got no parking brake, its normal brakes are slightly worn, its tires are moderately worn, and its running on a very worn clutch, plus I highly doubt its ABS is working and I don't think it ever had traction control, in fact the lack of TC is my favorite part about my car.

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