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Unread 03-06-2010, 08:11 PM   #1
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Hi guys,
I was wondering if I could get your advice on something. Yesterday my Ford Focus SE '02 stalled out on a red light (big surprise eh, lol). I couldnt get it started again, and had to have it towed to the "steal"-ership. Long story short, it turns out I need to replace the timing belt (I was quoted $550 for the belt and labour combined).

After doing a bit of research, I realized that often when people replace timing belts, they do other stuff along with it to save money on future labour costs, since the engine area has to be taken apart anyways. The main thing I'm concerned about is the water pump since I have never replaced it.

Do you think it would be a good idea for me to replace the water pump with the timing belt, even if the dealership tells me I only need to replace the timing belt? Also, any guesses on how much extra it will cost to throw the water pump in there too? will they try to charge me for labour twice?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

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Hi guys,
I was wondering if I could get your advice on something. Yesterday my Ford Focus SE '02 stalled out on a red light (big surprise eh, lol). I couldnt get it started again, and had to have it towed to the "steal"-ership. Long story short, it turns out I need to replace the timing belt (I was quoted $550 for the belt and labour combined).

After doing a bit of research, I realized that often when people replace timing belts, they do other stuff along with it to save money on future labour costs, since the engine area has to be taken apart anyways. The main thing I'm concerned about is the water pump since I have never replaced it.

Do you think it would be a good idea for me to replace the water pump with the timing belt, even if the dealership tells me I only need to replace the timing belt? Also, any guesses on how much extra it will cost to throw the water pump in there too? will they try to charge me for labour twice?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks


P.S. The automatic locks I referenced in a previous thread are still shotty. I pretty much gave up on them.
Water pump + timing belt, plus 2 hours of your time will cost you about $90 (new pump for a focus goes for about $50). Thats WAYYYYY too much they want from you for a simple timing belt change.
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Water pump + timing belt, plus 2 hours of your time will cost you about $90 (new pump for a focus goes for about $50). Thats WAYYYYY too much they want from you for a simple timing belt change.
Hey, thanks for the quick reply. The problem is that I don't know enough about this kind of stuff to be doing the work on my own. At the dealership they charge way too much for service but I don't really have any other options.

From what I gather though, you're saying I should tell them to do the water pump while they are at it too? or will I be fine with just the timing belt?

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Timing belt labor times
DOHC - 2.7 hrs
SOHC- 2.0 hrs

T-Belt
$90

Water pump
$100-120

Dealers charge $110 around here. So you can do the math.
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To be honest, for a stealership, that's actually not half bad. My local GM dealership (Harry Browns) charges $250 to open the freaking hood. From there it's $250 an hour...
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I would have had it towed to a reputable third-party shop to have that done if I had a shop do it at all. The Stealership is going to gouge your wallet on simple repairs.

What a reputable shop in my area would charge boils down like this, assuming 25 bucks for the belt and 75 for the water pump.


Parts: 100 bucks
Labor: 75/hr @ 1.25 hour(The shop I take stuff to if I use a shop is damned good, they do stuff like this really fast)

Looking at about 200 bucks or so, give or take a $20.


'Course, if it were my car, I would just have it towed to my house and DIY it.
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I would have had it towed to a reputable third-party shop to have that done if I had a shop do it at all. The Stealership is going to gouge your wallet on simple repairs.

What a reputable shop in my area would charge boils down like this, assuming 25 bucks for the belt and 75 for the water pump.


Parts: 100 bucks
Labor: 75/hr @ 1.25 hour(The shop I take stuff to if I use a shop is damned good, they do stuff like this really fast)

Looking at about 200 bucks or so, give or take a $20.


'Course, if it were my car, I would just have it towed to my house and DIY it.
Obviously not all of us are backwoods rednecks
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lol I'm no backwoods redneck.


I might be slightly backwoods, but I ain't no redneck. I put my stuff back together properly, you know, with bolts and everything
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Cheapest quote I got for a timing belt job around here, in a situation where I bought the parts and expected no warranty on parts from the shop, was 400 dollars. Just for labor.
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Serpentine belt on my cruiser was 285 out the door
Belt for the focus alone was 75, and FOUR HOURS labor. (dunno their rate, probably 125.00)
to get a code is 98 bucks alone?! WTF
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